Double decker roads?
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A long while ago I had this fantasy while stuck in traffic. It seemed on this particular day that every car driver had decided to weave into odd positions all over the road so I had to get off and walk - still faster than waiting in the traffic.
Then as i was doing so I thought that it would be cool to have double-decker road systems (got the idea from when I was a kid and reading Judge Dredd) where only light vehicles like bikes could use them and just whipp over busy roads. Like a motorway for bikes.
Think of those old canal bridges - the engineering and simplicity. Does make me wonder if this is how we will end up in the future with so many people still buying cars (and using them unnecessarily).
Or am I barmy?
Then as i was doing so I thought that it would be cool to have double-decker road systems (got the idea from when I was a kid and reading Judge Dredd) where only light vehicles like bikes could use them and just whipp over busy roads. Like a motorway for bikes.
Think of those old canal bridges - the engineering and simplicity. Does make me wonder if this is how we will end up in the future with so many people still buying cars (and using them unnecessarily).
Or am I barmy?
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As you say, where will it all end ? i suppose the penny will / may (?) drop one day
Evening route ,
You've been affected by watching too many youtube cycling clips, steer clear they make you think silly things
Aint that the truth. Damn that active sharing
It may not have any cyclists in the diagrams, but is sure is barmy... underground double-decker grid motorways and car parks in London, anyone? (I'll just keep living out here in the boonies away from the big silly cities, thanks.)
As Moyles pointed out on his podcast, you look at one clip then spend ages looking at other related clips.
Have you been to Milton Keynes?
Of Livingston? The latter should serve as a warning to you!!!
Problem with any "facility" in this country is that if its possible for it to be undermaintained, it will, and if there's a possibility of it becoming cluttered with broken glass, rubbish and leaves, overgrown plants, it will.
The advantage of sharing the roads with cars is that traffic keeps the roads pretty well swept and eventually when potholes get large enough, they need repairing for the benefit of the cars.
In fairness to MK, it does look pretty tidy and leafy when I visited.
Disadvantage is of course if it was designed to be wide enough for cycling with cars passing with plenty of room, then it is also wide enough for parking in without any penalty.
Guess it helps councils with a win-win result, allows them to draw their green lines on maps, while not inconveniencing anyone (cyclists of course don't count in the hierarchy of road users)
Can't argue with that. There are cycle lanes in Edinburgh that I've cycled past on a daily basis for 3 years but which I've never actually seen.
It might be fun to become a royal pain in the ars'e for the people responsible. The FOIA is good for that. All you have to do, in theory is write to the council and start demanding their records in regard to something. Might be interesting to learn more of the raionale behind placing a bike lane either (a) under a car or (b) in the door zone.
http://www.velo-city.ca/
I'm part of the association!
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Well that surprised me! Toronto doesn't really strike me as a very 'cycling' city. Other than a few young kids riding their bikes in the suburbs, I can only remember seeing leisure cyclists down at the waterfront, in numbers similar to roller-bladers (mid-July). The TTC (Toronto Transit Commission, who run the subways, streetcars and buses in the Toronto area) don't allow bicycles on any vehicle during rush hour or when vehicles are 'heavily loaded', and don't make any exception for folders. GO (Greater Ontario Transit, longer distance buses and trains), are the same, except they now allow folding bikes (with covers) on their trains.
On the upshot, both GO and the TTC have apparently started putting bike racks on the front of their buses. Who knows what might happen there?
(nice idea, Toronto, it'd be great if it caught on)
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WANT.
can't be bothered to google for it though cause it'll never happen.