Help keep my litttle brother alive

woodford2barbican
woodford2barbican Posts: 1,505
edited September 2008 in Commuting chat
I am selling my little brother a bike (at a very good price obviously!) so he can start cycling around London and perhaps start commuting.

What advice would you give him as a newbie to the roads (he can't drive)?

All advice is welcome, from the obvious to the obscure - I don't want him disappearing under the wheels of a lorry, I am less concerned about him getting punctures and having no kit to repair it with, as a long walk never hurt anybody, but you can also advise him on that as well.

I am going to take him out for a couple of hours next weekend to give him some tips - but I am sure he could benefit from the cumaltive knowledge of the forum as well.

Perhaps if we get enough good advice on this thread we could sticky it to help other new commuters.....and avoid some of the repeat threads we get.

Most importantly - thank you for all and any advice!

Comments

  • linsen
    linsen Posts: 1,959
    If you think you're not safe, get off and push
    don't go alongside lorries or buses
    if you cycle like a road user (ie wait at lights, don't cycle in the gutter etc) then drivers are more likely to respect you
    Wear an obnoxiously bright top
    don't undertake cars
    if you want to go along a queue of traffic, go along on the outside not the inside
    .....and don't forget to feel smug - you are part of the solution, not the problem!
    Emerging from under a big black cloud. All help welcome
  • biondino
    biondino Posts: 5,990
    Don't look at pretty girls as you cycle (seriously, this is #1 likelihood of me having a crash)
  • biondino wrote:
    Don't look at pretty girls as you cycle (seriously, this is #1 likelihood of me having a crash)

    We can't take all the fun out of it - look but not for too long!
  • dondare
    dondare Posts: 2,113
    Know the law and obey it.
    Expect the unexpected.
    Read Cyclecraft.
    This post contains traces of nuts.
  • ChrisLS
    ChrisLS Posts: 2,749
    ...act like traffic...don't ride in the gutter...keep checking behind all the time...check behind before any manourvre...

    ...never, never, never filter the inside of lorries, artics, and buses...

    ...most drivers are fine, treat all road users with respect and politeness, you may or may not get it back, but have your own high standards... a smile and a wave of thanks, a thumbs up goes along way...don't react to bad road users, shrug it off and ride on, there are more good ones than thoughtless ones and stupid ones, make sure you are not thoughtless or stupid...



    ...also, don't get involved in silly commuting racing...you will end up a hollow eyed shadow of your former self...like a hunting vampire who can never rest...you have been warned...
    ...all the way...'til the wheels fall off and burn...
  • If he's a Woodford boy tell him to watch it going round Charlie Brown's roundabout!
  • giltkid wrote:
    If he's a Woodford boy tell him to watch it going round Charlie Brown's roundabout!

    Deptford - he's going to come across E&C roundabout one day...
  • pst88
    pst88 Posts: 621
    Check behind.. but not so much you run into the back of a van in front of you.

    Just out of interest how old is your little brother? When I read the title I assumed he was about 4.
    Bianchi Via Nirone Veloce/Centaur 2010
  • pst88 wrote:
    Check behind.. but not so much you run into the back of a van in front of you.

    Just out of interest how old is your little brother? When I read the title I assumed he was about 4.

    He's 27 and taller than me.

    But he is my little brother - although I don't call him Squirt too often these days.
  • Sewinman
    Sewinman Posts: 2,131
    biondino wrote:
    Don't look at pretty girls as you cycle (seriously, this is #1 likelihood of me having a crash)

    Six months ago whilst commuting in Brixton I slammed into a left turning car and went over the bonnet due to checking out a hottie! :oops: :roll: Not the coolest move...
  • I'm the little brother in question.

    I think my big bro is a little cagey after the little tumble I took when we went out for a ride a few months ago! :D
  • Ex-Squirt wrote:
    I'm the little brother in question.

    I think my big bro is a little cagey after the little tumble I took when we went out for a ride a few months ago! :D

    I forgot about that - I am more worried now!
  • I think my first experience of road rash taught me it is something to be avoided where possible! Surely a valuable lesson to a newbie?
  • dafruk
    dafruk Posts: 125
    Ex-Squirt wrote:
    I think my first experience of road rash taught me it is something to be avoided where possible! Surely a valuable lesson to a newbie?
    Definitely, tarmac does not taste nice.

    I'd say don't be afraid to upset drivers by riding in the primary position when it is the safest option. Clearly don't piss folk off by permenantly blocking them but there are times where it is safest.

    Always remember you're as entitled to be on the road so don't be shy about making people aware of you. Sure if you slow them down for 20 seconds it pisses them off but it's always better than going under a lorry.

    Eye contact is the best guarantee that a driver has seen you. don't just look at the vehicle, look at the driver.

    Oh and remember being a pedestrian. Don't do all the daft things that annoyed you when you were on foot.
    FCN 7- Tourer, panniers, Lycra and clipless

    What is this game you speak of? Of course I'm not playing...
  • Littigator
    Littigator Posts: 1,262
    It takes about 2 weeks I reckon to get your road sense adapted to cycling around London, take it really easy until you start to feel comfortable.

    Any NEVER EVER RLJ!
    Roadie FCN: 3

    Fixed FCN: 6
  • secretsam
    secretsam Posts: 5,120
    1. Expect...utter stupidity and irrationality from all other road users, on 2, 3, 4 wheels and more, plus insane peds

    2. Ride like you mean it. Dawdle, daydream, cower in the gutter and you're toast. Be assertive but not a psycho.

    3. Rules are there for a reason, obey reds, etc. Use lights.

    4. If in doubt, bottle out.

    5. Eyes and ears open at all times. Get eye contact. Be clear in your signals and your intentions.

    6. Keep your bike on top form, tyres, tubes, brakes above all. Wear a lid if you feel safer.

    Enjoy.

    It's just a hill. Get over it.
  • biondino
    biondino Posts: 5,990
    Keep your bike on top form, tyres, tubes, brakes above all.

    When I was cleaning my bike yesterday I found three small shards of metal embedded in my front brake pad. Hope they hadn't been there for long!