Millar and ToB

heavymental
heavymental Posts: 2,094
edited September 2008 in Pro race
Why's he so far back? I'd have thought he'd be wanting to be on the pace in his home tour. Whats his role in the team now? Is he just a domestique?

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  • I think he came into the ToB with an open mind - if nobody showed any real appetite for it then I am sure he would have showed a bit of intention - but I think from the off thiis year his season has always been focussed on the worlds.
    I think that has been the strategy for every race throughout the season. Either that or he has just lost interest early on.
  • NervexProf
    NervexProf Posts: 4,202
    What does stand out, for me is that Malcolm Elliot - aged 47 is in 25th place - 12 mins 47secs down on the yellow jersey, whereas D. Millar is in 80th place - 33mins- 27 secs down...and Millar is 15 years Elliot's junior!

    Is Millar serious?
    Common sense in an uncommon degree is what the world calls wisdom
  • Obviously not about the GC

    it's a hard life if you don't weaken.
  • Hasn't he said that once Le Tour was over every event he did was as buildup for the Worlds?
  • NervexProf wrote:
    Is Millar serious?

    He'd be a fool to take this race seriously. :o
  • Why is he 30 odd minutes down on GC? Alright he's not riding to win it but to be 30 odd minutes down on GC is a pretty poor showing for somebody who rode in the Tour De France this year.
  • He came down on a corner on Stage 3 in my town and was looking tired come the final KoM climb of the day. He hasn't had the best of years. Only that Giro breakaway stands out (where his chain snapped in the final k's)
  • I'd have thought that the usual tactic is being applied.If not in the running for the overall,then loose some time,& you might have a chance in a break (posing no threat to the overall)
    I was at the finish in Stoke,& Millars breakaway group had just been caught before the finish.He rode in VERY comfortably,on a low gear,not worrying about loosing a minute or so.
    Think he's looking at the big picture,rather than worrying if he finishes 29th or 40th overall?
    so many cols,so little time!
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    Plus he has to do a job every day of delivering New Zealand Champion Julian Dean to his 8th place in the sprints.
  • NervexProf wrote:
    Is Millar serious?

    He'd be a fool to take this race seriously. :o
    Whilst I agree with that. How is the race going to get taken more seriously so Millar would want to be competitive.
  • I'm really enjoying the ToB this year - seems to getting bigger crowds and better TV coverage than before. All the riders seem to be taking it serious so I can't understand why David Miller isn't.

    By the way - what has happened to Bradley Wiggins - is he still in pack somewhere as no mention of him in recent highlight programmes?
  • NervexProf wrote:
    Is Millar serious?

    He'd be a fool to take this race seriously. :o
    Whilst I agree with that. How is the race going to get taken more seriously so Millar would want to be competitive.

    Money and protour status? It's just a glorified criterium without that :P.
  • NervexProf wrote:
    Is Millar serious?

    He'd be a fool to take this race seriously. :o
    Whilst I agree with that. How is the race going to get taken more seriously so Millar would want to be competitive.

    With Dan Martin doing so well surely Millar will be working for him?
  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,249
    Of course Millar is taking this seriously.

    He put in some serious efforts on the first two stages leading out the sprint for Backstedt and Julian Dean.

    With Dan Martin in the break on stage 3 he was duty bound not to chase and to finish in the Peloton. Any GC ambitions were effectively over after that stage with a 13 minute plus gap to the leaders.

    Since then he has been in one long break and has been working his nuts off to help Dan Martin. Once the work is done for the day he has been conserving energy at the end of the stage so as to be fresher for his duties the next day.
  • shoulda cycled
  • Well I hope Millar has a successful world's but so far his comeback in the last few years since his drugs suspension seems to be a good argument that the drugs do work. He seems to be little more than a good domestique these days.
  • There's too many people posting on this forum who don't seem to have the first clue about racing :roll:
  • There's too many people posting on this forum who don't seem to have the first clue about racing :roll:
    Hmmm - I'm probably one of them - but I still think I'm entitled to make a comment or ask a question. Didn't realise this Race forum was for an exclusive club. :(
  • There's too many people posting on this forum who don't seem to have the first clue about racing :roll:

    Does that make you better than them? :lol:
  • No - but it's chuffin annoying when people get on British cyclists backs because they're not at the front of the peleton all day or attacking every five minutes :roll:

    Would you be pleased if I criticised how you did your job even though I don't know the first thing about it or never had any experience of it?
  • No - but it's chuffin annoying when people get on British cyclists backs because they're not at the front of the peloton all day or attacking every five minutes :roll:

    Would you be pleased if I criticised how you did your job even though I don't know the first thing about it or never had any experience of it?

    ah, just live with it. They're not hardened fans who follow all the results from Het Volk to Lombardia, so of course they'll seem a bit naive.
  • Ste_S
    Ste_S Posts: 1,173
    No - but it's chuffin annoying when people get on British cyclists backs because they're not at the front of the peloton all day or attacking every five minutes :roll:

    Would you be pleased if I criticised how you did your job even though I don't know the first thing about it or never had any experience of it?

    Perfectly valid thing to do on an internet forum that discusses pro cycling
  • Oooh eliteism... been a while.
  • No - but it's chuffin annoying when people get on British cyclists backs because they're not at the front of the peloton all day or attacking every five minutes :roll:

    Would you be pleased if I criticised how you did your job even though I don't know the first thing about it or never had any experience of it?
    It's not only people on here who are critising the likes of David Miller. I just watched the ToB highlights and the presenter said that David Miller rode this week like he had come to the end of a long hard season - or words to that effect.
  • There's too many people posting on this forum who don't seem to have the first clue about racing :roll:

    Crikey, get a life. :o I haven't done any racing, but still entitled to an opinion, if you had to have played top level football or cricket to comment on them they'd be very few people able to espouse an opinion.
  • biondino
    biondino Posts: 5,990
    There's too many people posting on this forum who don't seem to have the first clue about racing :roll:

    Crikey, get a life. :o I haven't done any racing, but still entitled to an opinion, if you had to have played top level football or cricket to comment on them they'd be very few people able to espouse an opinion.

    Which might not be all that bad a thing in many cases! Though actually, if you stopped professional footballers talking about football the sport would be come a lot more interesting*

    *apart from the small number who actually have insight - Pat Nevin, Martin O'Neill, um, running out here...
  • Jez mon
    Jez mon Posts: 3,809
    No - but it's chuffin annoying when people get on British cyclists backs because they're not at the front of the peloton all day or attacking every five minutes :roll:

    Would you be pleased if I criticised how you did your job even though I don't know the first thing about it or never had any experience of it?
    It's not only people on here who are criticising the likes of David Miller. I just watched the ToB highlights and the presenter said that David Miller rode this week like he had come to the end of a long hard season - or words to that effect.

    Well he is coming to the end of a long season, two Grand Tours, a strong early season and that is part of the reason for what has been an unspectacular campaign, other reasons; well the ToB isn't exactly the most important race and he seems to be trying to get into form for the worlds.

    He also seemed to be more active than someone who thinks he is the biggest thing since sliced bread after winning two gold medals on the track, but not really doing anything much on the road :lol:
    You live and learn. At any rate, you live
  • Doobz
    Doobz Posts: 2,800
    I think this pic pretty much sums up his tour

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