which rigid forks?

andy83
andy83 Posts: 1,558
edited September 2008 in MTB buying advice
ok Ihave finally decided that im best having rigid forks for bike as dont go off road just use for fitness and commuting an t fact my current forks hardly move so are like rigid anyway lol.com will eventually start using for off road but not for at least 18 months tile i save for other bike

so what are the pros an cons of rigid and anyone any recommendations budget ain't massive and not bothered bout carbon or not
im 15st9 if this makes any difference and bike is in sig

thanks in advance

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  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,673
    disc mount or V brake mount?

    what is the length of your current fork? got a budget? steel, carbon, aluminium?

    Personally Carbon as it helps reduce the trail buzz.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
    Parktools :?:SheldonBrown
  • andy83
    andy83 Posts: 1,558
    sorry should have put that

    need disc brake mounts.

    not really sure of current fork length but have a old diagram of current forks i done when trying to measure before. full length is 26 and half inches from top to bottom, does this sound right or have a got it totally wrong??

    heres a pic of rubbish diagram ive got, ignore the hook at the bottom of one side, it is part of the fork i just never drew on the otherside lol p3220026sp7.th.jpg
  • andy83
    andy83 Posts: 1,558
    forgot to add budget is not massive, cheaper the better as xmas coming up and all that. was looking for between £60 and £100, nearer £60 though, not sure what can be got for this much?

    as for type really not sure, anything better than the ones i have now
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,673
    what are the forks you want to replace?
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
    Parktools :?:SheldonBrown
  • andy83
    andy83 Posts: 1,558
    can be seen in my sig

    rst T5 if that means anything

    they were the standard on my gt agressor 3
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,673
    RST ***** TC? capa?

    what year is the bike?
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
    Parktools :?:SheldonBrown
  • Superstar Components, carbon, disc mounts,3 sizes. £75, bargain.
    ding dang do
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    On a budget, the classic Kona P2
  • andy83
    andy83 Posts: 1,558
    nicklouse wrote:
    RST ***** TC? capa?

    what year is the bike?

    just checked and theyre RST CAPA T5 bike was the 2005 model

    just looked and cant find them kona ones on wiggle or crc and only really like using them

    What bout these

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/Cycle/7/Kines ... 300005318/

    or should i save up and get something that is carbon, really like the look of the below but dont think they do disc mounts, plus they are in the road section

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/Cycle/7/Easto ... 360036577/

    any help much appreciated
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    The top fork will fit, but it doesn't state the crown to axle height. You want between 420mm and 440mm ideally to match your frame.

    The second fork is for road bikes.

    Have a look at this:

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/eXotic-Rigid-Carb ... 286.c0.m14
  • andy83
    andy83 Posts: 1,558
    like those on ebay, very nice but which size would i need??

    i usually get vouchers for wiggle so what you reckon to these, yes i do also like wiggle, not a fan of buying stuff like that off ebay, got stung a few times, any probs with wiggle great service

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/Cycle/7/Ident ... 360029145/

    or

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/Cycle/7/DMR_T ... 360029802/

    or at a real push

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/Cycle/7/White ... 360038741/

    thanks for all your help supersonic
  • andy83
    andy83 Posts: 1,558
    also never heard of exotic, they any good?? and only want forks with just disc mounts on, dont like the v brake things sticking out lol
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    You don't want a dirt jump fork - be heavy and very harsh.

    The White Bros fork - same as many other carbon forks, out of the same factory!

    I hear good things about the Exotic. Lots of versions availbale - I'd get the disc only 42.5cm version.
  • Glad I came across this post- used to ride a rigid Scott Mohaka and it was brilliant off road, especially on Cairngorm rocky/bouldery trails, as long as tyre pressures were set well.
    I've had a GT Avalanche thing with RockShox Pilot forks (crappy air preload in one stanchion and no lockout)for a few years and I really hate them off road, no feedback at all at the wheel, they have ISO disc fitments(got new wheels from Merlin last year so sticking with discs)
    Can anyone recommend rigids for this bike such as the ones Andy has been looking at, and how easy are they to fit?
    Suppose I'll need to measure some bits before doing this- rake/trail/axle diameter etc. Is the height on the bike between axle and crown with no load on it, ie wheel hanging in mid air, or with natural "sag"...
    Or could anyone offer any suggestions to a significantly better sub £200(! :lol: ) shocker with lockout?
    Cheers
    Barry
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,673
    Ok the 2007 (i guess the 05 will be the same) fork has an axle to crown height of 452mm so take of your 20% sag of your travel and that will give you the type of length of fork you should be looking for for a similar handling feel to what you have now.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
    Parktools :?:SheldonBrown
  • andy83
    andy83 Posts: 1,558
    so if i have worked it out right i need a fork that is 361.6mm

    would it be best if i got a LBS to fit them, got quoted £15 for them to be fitted the other day, spose dont want to balls them up
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,673
    nope, if your fork is a 100mm travel for then your sah will be 20-25mm (20-25% of the 100mm)

    so a 425mm fork would be perfect.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
    Parktools :?:SheldonBrown
  • andy83
    andy83 Posts: 1,558
    ah i see, sorry for sounding like a complete idiot

    thought my measurement looked wrong
  • Superstar Components, carbon, disc mounts,3 sizes. £75, bargain.

    http://superstar.tibolts.co.uk/product_ ... cts_id=101

    I'm thinking of getting these for my hardtail and going single speed also.
    More freerange chicken than Freeride God
    Bighit , 5 , BFe
  • Took delivery of mine last week,sick of waiting for on one to get some stock :roll: .Good finish apart from yellow graphics.Im building up as a singlespeed for winter use,messing about with kids.
    ding dang do
  • Evans are doing the Kona P2 for £39.99- got the A-C size at 440mm from them which is fine for my bike, but have had to email them again regarding the brake fitments(ie on their ordering process there is nowhere to specify A/ IS, B/ V- brake or C/ both, I only want the A fitment option)
    The carbon forks from superstar and exotic look good, decent price for carbon, but would carbon be totally rigid and not give much feedback?
    Oh- are these Kona forks for dirt jumping or are they ok for singletrack XC, and do they weigh a lot?
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    Kona do (or did) about 4 versions of the P2. The triple butted cromo, double butted, plain guage and jump version. The latter is harsh, the triple butted the lightest and comfiest (about 750-800g)

    Carbon has inherant damping qualities.
  • Can anyone advise whether the Superstar forks are IS or Post Mount?
    Cheers...!
  • BlackSpur
    BlackSpur Posts: 4,228
    "Melancholy is incompatible with bicycling." ~James E. Starrs
  • Been looking on Carboncycles.cc which is obviously the parent company for Exotic, looks like it's Singapore based. Might just get them off Ebay if I go for this option, really light in terms of weight too..
    Cheers for the replies folks! I've never stripped an Ahead set, could I use the existing headset and just transfer it to the new forks?(can you tell this is a budget job..!)
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    Look at Park Tools on how to swap forks. You need to change the crown race to the new fork. Time consuming, but is all straight forward. Ish!