Thorny Issue

edthedead
edthedead Posts: 23
edited August 2008 in MTB general
I keep getting thorns causing punctures in my front tyre, about one a week... is there anything I can do to prevent it? I have tried the selfm healing inner tubes, but found they didn't work!

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  • ride_whenever
    ride_whenever Posts: 13,279
    A tubeless setup should fix the problem...

    *retreats to safe distance to watch the ensuing carnage...
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  • cjw
    cjw Posts: 1,889
    Yep... what he said. Haven't had a puncture in over a year now.

    That's tempting fate isn't it :?
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  • Yukon Lad
    Yukon Lad Posts: 423
    possibly your tyres, i run nevegals and even though i rode over a thorn bush the other week and haven't had a puncture yet, tubeless is good but more hassle to fix when it does

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  • Papa Smurf
    Papa Smurf Posts: 776
    Here's a good trick, get an old tube, cut off the valve and line the outside of your tyre with it.. Works a treat.
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  • crud_munch
    crud_munch Posts: 158
    Papa Smurf wrote:
    Here's a good trick, get an old tube, cut off the valve and line the outside of your tyre with it.. Works a treat.

    Thats will just add more weight!
    I have always found sealing liquid to work okay! just dont buy the pre filled tubes as they are thin and rubbish! buy a pot of the sealant (bikehut stuff is good) and squeeze that into a set of good inner tubes!

    alternatively if you want to try the 'new fangled' way buy a tubeless kit like stans or joes!

    good luck!
  • simmo_wilko
    simmo_wilko Posts: 34
    I got some of this stuff in my tyres:

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/Cycle/7/Panar ... 300003783/
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  • Papa Smurf
    Papa Smurf Posts: 776
    crud_munch wrote:
    Papa Smurf wrote:
    Here's a good trick, get an old tube, cut off the valve and line the outside of your tyre with it.. Works a treat.

    Thats will just add more weight!
    I have always found sealing liquid to work okay! just dont buy the pre filled tubes as they are thin and rubbish! buy a pot of the sealant (bikehut stuff is good) and squeeze that into a set of good inner tubes!

    alternatively if you want to try the 'new fangled' way buy a tubeless kit like stans or joes!

    good luck!

    Wow, a couple of extra grams here n there... Yet another thing the concept of gears is designed to aid with.
    But if you really wanted to be pedantic, try some slime outers.. Same principle as said inner tube trick, but with a branded strip that's alot thinner and said to stop 99% of things (it's good but not that good)
    So if you don't wanna arse about going tubeless or get covered in crap with slime, use the tubes.. Were talking what, 40-50 grams per inner tube?
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  • crud_munch
    crud_munch Posts: 158
    Papa Smurf wrote:
    crud_munch wrote:
    Papa Smurf wrote:
    Here's a good trick, get an old tube, cut off the valve and line the outside of your tyre with it.. Works a treat.

    Thats will just add more weight!
    I have always found sealing liquid to work okay! just dont buy the pre filled tubes as they are thin and rubbish! buy a pot of the sealant (bikehut stuff is good) and squeeze that into a set of good inner tubes!

    alternatively if you want to try the 'new fangled' way buy a tubeless kit like stans or joes!

    good luck!

    Wow, a couple of extra grams here n there... Yet another thing the concept of gears is designed to aid with.
    But if you really wanted to be pedantic, try some slime outers.. Same principle as said inner tube trick, but with a branded strip that's alot thinner and said to stop 99% of things (it's good but not that good)
    So if you don't wanna ars* about going tubeless or get covered in crap with slime, use the tubes.. Were talking what, 40-50 grams per inner tube?

    If gears are supposed to make it easier with extra weight why do they keep making bikes lighter and not put more gears on bikes??
    people on this forum are jerks (PAPA SMURF) just get a life and stop criticising me for giving my help when it was asked for!
  • cjw
    cjw Posts: 1,889
    Inner tubes are about 200g each. So two tubes adds about 400g rotational weight which is not generally considered to be good.
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  • crud_munch
    crud_munch Posts: 158
    cjw wrote:
    Inner tubes are about 200g each. So two tubes adds about 400g rotational weight which is not generally considered to be good.

    Thankyou! :D
  • Papa Smurf
    Papa Smurf Posts: 776
    And what about el cheapo tubes? I'm not talking about whacking great DH tubes chaps..

    As for why they make bikes lighter..Well that's simple. Because the lighter it is, the better you can get it around. I mean who likes carrying a big heavy bike up some steps..
    And as for the gears, can't say I've seen any bikes with less gears, but the whole 9spd seems to be taking off..
    Unless of course you mean single speed, but they tend to be for a purpose..

    And excuse me but I'm adding my 2 cents worth too so rather than stooping to levels like you did above, try realising that I'm welcome to my opinion and tbh, if you dont like, tough sh1t.
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  • Liam-rooney
    Liam-rooney Posts: 159
    Papa Smurf wrote:
    Here's a good trick, get an old tube, cut off the valve and line the outside of your tyre with it.. Works a treat.

    I was goig to say that :D
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  • cjw
    cjw Posts: 1,889
    The tube I weighed before posting is a standard Specialized XC - not some super thick downhill (not aware that they exist by the way - of course you can get larger tubes for larger tyres).

    Ummmmm... the main reason for making bikes lighter isn't so that you can carry them up steps easier (that's the funniest thing I've heard for a while) :lol:

    An dof course you're welcome to your opinion. The point others were making is that adding extra tubes in the tyres goes against what most want to do with their bikes, ie make them heavier. People prefer lighter bikes as they are easier to pedal uphill, accelerate quicker and tend to be more manouverable. Add weigth to the wheels and you defeat all of that. Remember that you can spend £2,000 on a set of uber-light XC wheels.
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  • ride_whenever
    ride_whenever Posts: 13,279
    Papa Smurf wrote:
    Unless of course you mean single speed, but they tend to be for a purpose..

    Singlespeeds don't have a purpose. :lol:

    But what about DH bikes with only 9 or AM bikes with a paltry 18?
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  • Papa Smurf
    Papa Smurf Posts: 776
    cjw wrote:
    The tube I weighed before posting is a standard Specialized XC - not some super thick downhill (not aware that they exist by the way - of course you can get larger tubes for larger tyres).

    Ummmmm... the main reason for making bikes lighter isn't so that you can carry them up steps easier (that's the funniest thing I've heard for a while) :lol:

    An dof course you're welcome to your opinion. The point others were making is that adding extra tubes in the tyres goes against what most want to do with their bikes, ie make them heavier. People prefer lighter bikes as they are easier to pedal uphill, accelerate quicker and tend to be more manouverable. Add weigth to the wheels and you defeat all of that. Remember that you can spend £2,000 on a set of uber-light XC wheels.
    Oh DH tubes dont exist now, what you call Nokian DH tubes on crc then?
    And yeah 200g, that is infact a small handfull of prawns.. Really heavy stuff :roll:

    Well obviously that's not the only reason for making bikes lighter, and you would know this had you of read what I wrote correctly.. Kinda easy to work out though huh.. Big heavy bike or a light one... Hmm, decisions decision..

    And yeah I agree with you about defeating the object of the weight issue etc, however, the equivalent to a small handfull of prawns in each wheel isn't the end of the world.. And even if it was, what's wrong with putting in a little more effort? You kinda make it sound like Mountain biking is being made easy with a super light bike, yeah, it sure would help.. But it's not about being easy.. Ir's about riding the trails and feeling a sense of achievement when you've climbed to the top of a killer hill, whether you bikes heavy or not.

    ride_whenever wrote:
    Papa Smurf wrote:
    Unless of course you mean single speed, but they tend to be for a purpose..

    Singlespeeds don't have a purpose. :lol:

    But what about DH bikes with only 9 or AM bikes with a paltry 18?

    Hmm lemme see.... DOWNHILL - Think of the definition of that, gravity has alot to do with it...
    Why on earth you would need 18-21+ gears on a DH bike when your gonna of maxxed out your gearing within seconds anyway is way beyond me..
    Plus of course you have the whole factor of ground clearance...
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  • cjw
    cjw Posts: 1,889
    Well obviously that's not the only reason for making bikes lighter, and you would know this had you of read what I wrote correctly..
    Papa Smurf wrote:
    As for why they make bikes lighter..Well that's simple. Because the lighter it is, the better you can get it around. I mean who likes carrying a big heavy bike up some steps..

    Well... that is what you said :wink:

    Fair point on DH tubes, just I've not come across them - haven't looked though either.

    Still 400g (remember there are 2) is a reasonable weight. We obviously differ on this view... not surprising really when my bike is carbon and sub 10Kg :D
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  • cjw
    cjw Posts: 1,889
    Thought this might be intersting... the price of extra / less weight.

    The Scott Scale 20 costs £2000 and weighs 10.25 kg
    The Scott Scale 30 costs £1125 and weights 10.50 kg

    Now there is the aspect of better quality componants, but mainly it is weight saving from one to the other so the 250 g costs £800 :shock: You get the same sorts of numbers to shave off 100g at a time from a light bike. For example go from Crank Bros Egg Beater 2Ti to 4Ti costs around £80 to save only 50g in weight.
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  • Papa Smurf
    Papa Smurf Posts: 776
    cjw wrote:
    Papa Smurf wrote:
    As for why they make bikes lighter..Well that's simple. Because the lighter it is, the better you can get it around. I mean who likes carrying a big heavy bike up some steps..

    Well... that is what you said :wink:

    I said that as an example! I'd have to be a real idiot to think that's the only reason (though it is 1 reason for me personally.. Have a very heavy bike)
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