Scott Aspect 20 Scott Reflex 20

cattermoleb

Can anyone tell me if the Scott Aspect 20 and the Scott Reflex 20 are the same bike?

http://scottusa.com/gb_en/product/378/741/aspect_20

http://www.evanscycles.com/products/sco ... e-ec001349

I think bikeradar tested the 07 model
http://www.bikeradar.com/mtb/gear/categ ... x-20-11122
And gave it a pretty good review. They rated it as quite light (under 30lb) but Scott's website says the 08 aspect weighs more at 30.62/13.9kgs, which is pretty heavy.

Anyone got one and know if they're anygood?

Test road an aspect in a local bike shop and it went quite nicely but the reflex is discounted at evans so would probably go for that if it is indeed the same bike...

Grateful for any help.

Ta.

BlackSpur

There wasn't a Reflex model in 2008. The Evan's site is wrong. The bike in the pic is an Aspect. The Aspect replaced the Reflex for 08 - essentially the same bike for the same purpose but with much nicer frames.

abbots_mike

as far as i can tell the frames look identical, and my reflex frame is very nice lol

BlackSpur

The Aspect frames use hydroformed tubes

cattermoleb

thanks for that

still deciding between a scott scale 60, scott aspect 20 and a trek 6300 disc....

rgarner

Bought it while in Greece for a bit of firtling about around Parnitha. Cost about 800 euros, which is well over the odds, but everywhere was closed for holidays and riding time was running out

Overall, I think it's pretty wonderful, but my (riding) experience is recent and quite limited. At home I have an '08 Specialized Epic FSR so my experience is mostly with the components and not with general riding. I'd say the components compare favourably to the Epic (which costs about three times the price). The frame seems absolutely great - the right size for me (I'm 6'2), with very nippy steering out of the box. It hasn't once wavered from my choice of line, it's predictable and reliable and really flows out of the saddle. On today's very rough tarmac leading to the old Greek royal family summer palace Tatoi (left to its decline since 1967 it seems!), I was mostly getting shaken to pieces on the downhill return trip but the rims, frame and general construction seemed to be taking it all in it's stride - nary a hint of a rattle.

The shifters (Shimano 3-way rapidfire) have operated flawlessly and the 3-way has ended up being quite a nice feature (even though I didn't think I'd use it). The front mech needs some adjustment as it won't hit the big sprocket unless downhilling at speed, but this has turned out to be minor.

The drivetrain seems very solid, is not noisy at all and mostly inspires confidence. I've had one issue with the chain coming off but that was beginner rider/shifter error

The worst thing about the package for me so far has been the brakes, though they're getting better quickly. The Shimano BR-M485's fitted as standard were extremely noisy (massive squeal which wakes wild neighbourhood dogs - quite a dangerous thing here :shock: ). After about 50-60Km, I was told, they'd get a lot better. They are a lot better, but they still creak a bit at low speed. I bit of a Google around unearthed a Shimano product "service bulletin" (http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=403405) which explains the problem. It's either residual fluid or a leak, and the fact that they're getting better leads me to believe it's the former, thankfully (though I will get them properly checked out, language barrier notwithstanding).

The RockShox Dart 2 fork is serviceable and reasonably adjustable - it doesn't get in the way of steering and it can soak up medium to big hits - it's not sensitive to low/medium hits which can result in quite a bit of shake on certain surfaces (the aforementioned unmaintained tarmac for one). The lockout is great and works as advertised. The rebound adjustment is simple but works and doesn't seem to get knocked out of position. The preload, on the other hand, has a nasty plastic knob which seems almost impossible to turn without mechanical help which would destroy the knob itself. Not great, and I'd love to be able to turn this, because as I say, I'm getting shaken about on some surfaces.

Hope this is helpful - I think on balance I'd buy it again. I really wanted a Specialized Hardrock Disc (thought I wanted something cheap for a second holiday bike) but after the fun I've had I'm glad I was forced to get the Scott. YMMV, obviously!

Cheers

Russ

cattermoleb

thanks for that - really helpful. Guess you're not finding it on the heavy side then.

What size frame you got out of interest? Think I tried a large and then felt just about right. I'm 5'11.

rgarner

Well it certainly seems no heavier than my Epic, which is my only real frame of reference (pun sadly intended). Seems to climb better too, but then that could be my fitness, which has improved dramatically over the past few weeks I've been away from the Epic. For me the frame's about the perfect size in Large - seat post gets up to good pedalling height and the frame is the perfect size (for me) for low speed manoeuverability and balance in tight areas.