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KléberKléber Posts: 6,842
edited August 2008 in Pro race
We've discovered that British Cycling called rower Rebecca Romero and she went on to win a cycling gold.

So looking at the athletics today, it appears there are some talented sprinters there but they're never going to compete against Bolt, Powell, Gay and the rest. So maybe BC could call up the likes of Devonish and Pickering and get them onto the programme and possibly gold for 2012?

Who else should BC call?

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  • afx237viafx237vi Posts: 12,630
    Some of those beach volleyball players look pretty fit... 8)

    Seriously though, some of those Ethiopian or Kenyan runners would surely make amazing climbers. There was a story in Cyclingnews a week or two ago about three Ethiopian cyclists who were brought to Europe to have a go at Alpe d'Huez. I think the time was 43 minutes or something like that, which is pretty great.

    Edit: Oh yeah, I know your point was about British Cycling, but hey, if Qatar and Bahrain can just whip out the chequebook and scoop up a bunch of African athletes, why can't we? :)
  • MichuelMichuel Posts: 269
    Evening Standard etc are reporting Kelly Sotherton (31yrs) 4th in heptathlon has been approached by BritishCycling to switch "thos guys they are fantastic...the minimum is gold basically, they don't expect anything else" but "maybe after 2012".

    Roswitha Krause (EG) switched between swimming (1968) and handball (1976) at silver medal level.

    And Shanaze Read will probably switch BMX to Sprint by 2012.
  • eheh Posts: 4,854
    No one to be honest unless they are already cycling fans, maybe the odd rower but thats about it. Certainly not Craig Pickering as he is worse than useless, well maybe a bit harsh but certainly overhyped and he's had a stinker all year.
  • LangerDanLangerDan Posts: 6,132
    ISuppose Brailsford announced in the next year or so that he planned to replace as many "traditional" cyclists as necessary in the 2012 track events by superior athletes drafted in from other disciplines - rowing, athletics, cross-country skiing etc. Would it be good for the development of the sport if, for example, someone like Wiggins were to be replaced by a rower who has been selected and "optimised" to win the pursuit in a couple of years.

    As I am not affected by this, being too old, too slow and too Irish to be selected by BC, I have no particlar axe to grind over this, just interested the issues of medal winning vs. "grass roots" development of a sport.
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  • MichuelMichuel Posts: 269
    LangerDan wrote:
    ISuppose Brailsford announced in the next year or so that he planned to replace as many "traditional" cyclists as necessary in the 2012 track events by superior athletes drafted in from other disciplines - rowing, athletics, cross-country skiing etc. Would it be good for the development of the sport if, for example, someone like Wiggins were to be replaced by a rower who has been selected and "optimised" to win the pursuit in a couple of years.

    As I am not affected by this, being too old, too slow and too Irish to be selected by BC, I have no particlar axe to grind over this, just interested the issues of medal winning vs. "grass roots" development of a sport.

    I don't think it's a problem. There won't be many 2012 weak points from these 2008 results so imported athletes will be few. Weakest event is road and we've got Cavendish.

    And it's uncertain and very difficult for the athlete to make a change in 4 years ...eg as I quoted above before Romero there was only an East German (swimming/handball) in 1968->1976. Romero is extraordinary. She already was cycling with rowing club. She is devoted to sport.

    Anyway cycle racing now is very different from say 20 years ago. Schoolchildren are being tested at school by BritishCycling, selected and fast-tracked so their contact with cycling is training/racing not touring. This is being followed by other sports but other sports don't have the breadth of leisure of cycling (touring, utility riding).

    If you want to pick the worst scenario just look at cricket or football where it's been common for many years to import from other countries (Australian and SA cricket professionals) which has resulted in local talent withering in club cricket and premier football division. This is unlikely for cycling - there isn't the rewards in cycling other than Olympic golds - and there isn't the money.

    I support bringing in proven athletes into cycling. We were too backwater 20 years ago. The Europeans also were too backwater and deserved the kick in the butt that USA and Columbians brought. And I also support the idea of Kenyan climbers against the Europeans.
  • afx237viafx237vi Posts: 12,630
    Michuel wrote:
    Evening Standard etc are reporting Kelly Sotherton (31yrs) 4th in heptathlon has been approached by BritishCycling to switch "thos guys they are fantastic...the minimum is gold basically, they don't expect anything else" but "maybe after 2012".

    Roswitha Krause (EG) switched between swimming (1968) and handball (1976) at silver medal level.

    And Shanaze Read will probably switch BMX to Sprint by 2012.

    I daresay Sotherton wouldn't fit in very well to the British Cycling setup. She's a typical British track and field "star" - always underperforms on the big occasion and always well-prepared with a ready-made excuse.

    Did anyone see the interview with the British 4x100 women's relay team today and how they dumped the blame on that one runner? Great team spirit... not.
  • CumulonimbusCumulonimbus Posts: 1,730
    afx237vi wrote:
    Michuel wrote:
    Evening Standard etc are reporting Kelly Sotherton (31yrs) 4th in heptathlon has been approached by BritishCycling to switch "thos guys they are fantastic...the minimum is gold basically, they don't expect anything else" but "maybe after 2012".

    Roswitha Krause (EG) switched between swimming (1968) and handball (1976) at silver medal level.

    And Shanaze Read will probably switch BMX to Sprint by 2012.

    I daresay Sotherton wouldn't fit in very well to the British Cycling setup. She's a typical British track and field "star" - always underperforms on the big occasion and always well-prepared with a ready-made excuse.

    Did anyone see the interview with the British 4x100 women's relay team today and how they dumped the blame on that one runner? Great team spirit... not.

    Strange that - especially after in the men's event Devonish said it was a team error when Pickering just ran off far too early.

    Womder what event they would line Sotherton up for? 3km? She was actually in the 4*400 team in the heats - must stand a decent chance of taking part in the final as McDonnell(sp.?) is out.
  • CumulonimbusCumulonimbus Posts: 1,730
    Sotherton did ok in the relay final if these splits are anything to go by (similar to BBC ones). Wasnt happy at the end and tried to take the blame for it when looking at the times it would appear that other people have questions to answer. Maybe she has got the right attitude?

    http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/I ... #ATW404101
  • oldwelshmanoldwelshman Posts: 4,733
    Personally I think it would be very difficult to do the same with a male athlete as they did with Romero. There are far fewer competitiors in womens pursuit than men, and even less who are world class.
    There are already many very good juniors posting good times and will be ready for 2012 so why look for male athletes from outside when there is no need.
    There is Olympic development and talent teams with enough talent to produce gold already.
    Maybe track and fiel may be looking who they can take from cycling to become athetes? :D
  • mididoctorsmididoctors Posts: 8,914
    edited August 2008
    there needs to be afro-European or African riders in the bunch... its a long time due

    Eritrea as an ex Italian colony has a history of cycle racing.

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  • Jez monJez mon Posts: 3,809
    Personally I can't see why exactly we should nab athletes, so long as we keep strong juniors coming through (and all the evidence suggests we have, in track at least) there are other sports where Team GB needs to learn how to win!!
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