Anyone going to the cycle show this year....

selfpropelledpaolo

noticed that tickets are on sale at www.cycleshow.co.uk but haven't seen much on bike radar about it yet. Wondered if anyone else thought it was worth a look?

monstadog

Yes, I'm going, got my tickets and train sorted already. I have been for the past 4 years, and its become an annual day out for me. Train to the smoke, 3 or 4 hours at the show, then a visit to somewhere else, then train home. Always a good day out!

monstadog

edited for duplicate post

NWLondoner

So good he said it twice

Yep got my ticket.

Want to have a look at the wiggle stand before i give them my hard earned cash

prj45

No way.

You know that that belittlied feeling you get when you walk into a poncy cycle shop and ask for something that they don't approve of?

Cycle show = that * 10,000.

selfpropelledpaolo

what have you been asking for in bike shops that they don't approve of?

:shock:

spen666

I won't go- on a point of principle


Why should I have to pay for the benefit of some company trying to sell me their wares.

I don't pay to enter Tesco's to see what products they have & won't pay to enter this shop window event

I have been in past when I have been given free tickets & was not impressed enough to pay to enter in future years

patchy

it doesn't seem all that from the website so far - i was hoping for more small suppliers, not just evans, evans and evans. Will keep an open mind, though...

spen666

selfpropelledpaolo wrote:

what have you been asking for in bike shops that they don't approve of?

:shock:

bull bars for a 4x4?

A taxi?

karl j

yes, converted in my cheap CTC ticket, unlike last year when i lost it. I suppose you have a point Spen, certainly one i hadn't thought of before but as far as i'm concerned it's a day out that is far better than the alternative of accompanying the OH looking for shoes.

number9

prj45 wrote:

No way.

You know that that belittlied feeling you get when you walk into a poncy cycle shop and ask for something that they don't approve of?

Cycle show = that * 10,000.

Loving your work on the Standard website mate!

I was solomongursky there, banned for some reason or other.

selfpropelledpaolo

take the point about paying to go to tescos, but on the whole it's not the shops but the brands you get to see and in some cases the people who are the brains behind the products.

I'm hoping that Shimano will be bringing their uber expensive new Dura Ace electric gears. I guess it's having the first chance to see things like that which make it worth paying to see. Stuff you'll never buy but which is fun to look at!

prj45

number9 wrote:

I was solomongursky there, banned for some reason or other.

Yeah, keep seeing you pop back though. You do have a knack for twisting the melons of the "car = chariot of the gods, cyclist = evil terrorist" brigade which I greatly admire.

prj45

spen666 wrote:

selfpropelledpaolo wrote:

what have you been asking for in bike shops that they don't approve of?

:shock:

bull bars for a 4x4?

A taxi?

Ah you know, just that snobby air you get from a lot of these places.

"I've got this chain sir for £30 or this one for £8".

"I'll take the £8 one please".

"*sneeeeeeeeeeeer*"

DonDaddyD

I really don't get all the uproar about having to pay to go to a bike show/convention.

Firstly something has to pay for the venue, organisers sheer logistics of arranging a place where a large number of bike retailers can be situated in one place so that bike enthusiasts don't have to go trekking around the country to visit their shops. - I may never see a Focus, or a Ribble in the flesh, not one that isn't owned by someone else, sitting on it, touching it, speaking to a retailer about it face2face may persuade me to buy it where as seeing it on the internet may not be enough. - So the cycle show does have at least one purpose.

Sure you have to pay but it is very much an exhibition (new '09 bikes and components) as much as it is a chance to buy stuff. Its an event where most retailers get to show off their wares in one place (making it easier for the attendees) and usually at a discount because of the close proximity.

At the very least its fun to see all the new shiny bike stuff, who wouldn't pay for fun? :shock:

spen666

DonDaddyD wrote:

I really don't get all the uproar about having to pay to go to a bike show/convention.

Firstly something has to pay for the venue, organisers sheer logistics of arranging a place where a large number of bike retailers can be situated in one place so that bike enthusiasts don't have to go trekking around the country to visit their shops. - I may never see a Focus, or a Ribble in the flesh, not one that isn't owned by someone else, sitting on it, touching it, speaking to a retailer about it face2face may persuade me to buy it where as seeing it on the internet may not be enough. - So the cycle show does have at least one purpose.

Sure you have to pay but it is very much an exhibition (new '09 bikes and components) as much as it is a chance to buy stuff. Its an event where most retailers get to show off their wares in one place (making it easier for the attendees) and usually at a discount because of the close proximity.

At the very least its fun to see all the new shiny bike stuff, who wouldn't pay for fun? :shock:

so would you be happy to pay to watch adverts for Heinz beans on TV? Pay as you watch adverts?
No - well why pay to watch these bike adverts

I mean - somebody has to film TV adverts & somebody has to pay for the TV air time

Its an event where most retailers get to show off their wares in one place

so are the adverts on TV


You are a mug if you are paying someone for the opportunity to be sold something

NWLondoner

spen666 wrote:

DonDaddyD wrote:

I really don't get all the uproar about having to pay to go to a bike show/convention.

Firstly something has to pay for the venue, organisers sheer logistics of arranging a place where a large number of bike retailers can be situated in one place so that bike enthusiasts don't have to go trekking around the country to visit their shops. - I may never see a Focus, or a Ribble in the flesh, not one that isn't owned by someone else, sitting on it, touching it, speaking to a retailer about it face2face may persuade me to buy it where as seeing it on the internet may not be enough. - So the cycle show does have at least one purpose.

Sure you have to pay but it is very much an exhibition (new '09 bikes and components) as much as it is a chance to buy stuff. It's an event where most retailers get to show off their wares in one place (making it easier for the attendees) and usually at a discount because of the close proximity.

At the very least its fun to see all the new shiny bike stuff, who wouldn't pay for fun? :shock:

so would you be happy to pay to watch adverts for Heinz beans on TV? Pay as you watch adverts?
No - well why pay to watch these bike adverts

I mean - somebody has to film TV adverts & somebody has to pay for the TV air time

Its an event where most retailers get to show off their wares in one place

so are the adverts on TV


You are a mug if you are paying someone for the opportunity to be sold something

Well, we DO pay for the adverts.

Also as another poster mentioned and the reason i am going is that i can see the Focus Cayo range in the flesh. It is also nice to have a whole range of different bikes under one roof so you can easily compare without having to travel all over London.

Personally before spending upwards of £1300 on a bike i would rather see it in the flesh and get the feel for it first.

NWLondoner

spen666 wrote:

DonDaddyD wrote:

I really don't get all the uproar about having to pay to go to a bike show/convention.

Firstly something has to pay for the venue, organisers sheer logistics of arranging a place where a large number of bike retailers can be situated in one place so that bike enthusiasts don't have to go trekking around the country to visit their shops. - I may never see a Focus, or a Ribble in the flesh, not one that isn't owned by someone else, sitting on it, touching it, speaking to a retailer about it face2face may persuade me to buy it where as seeing it on the internet may not be enough. - So the cycle show does have at least one purpose.

Sure you have to pay but it is very much an exhibition (new '09 bikes and components) as much as it is a chance to buy stuff. It's an event where most retailers get to show off their wares in one place (making it easier for the attendees) and usually at a discount because of the close proximity.

At the very least its fun to see all the new shiny bike stuff, who wouldn't pay for fun? :shock:

so would you be happy to pay to watch adverts for Heinz beans on TV? Pay as you watch adverts?
No - well why pay to watch these bike adverts

I mean - somebody has to film TV adverts & somebody has to pay for the TV air time

Its an event where most retailers get to show off their wares in one place

so are the adverts on TV


You are a mug if you are paying someone for the opportunity to be sold something

Well, we DO pay for the adverts.

Also as another poster mentioned and the reason i am going is that i can see the Focus Cayo range in the flesh. It is also nice to have a whole range of different bikes under one roof so you can easily compare without having to travel all over London.

Personally before spending upwards of £1300 on a bike i would rather see it in the flesh and get the feel for it first.

patchy

number9 wrote:

prj45 wrote:

No way.

You know that that belittlied feeling you get when you walk into a poncy cycle shop and ask for something that they don't approve of?

Cycle show = that * 10,000.

Loving your work on the Standard website mate!

I was solomongursky there, banned for some reason or other.

Standard website as in the one they share with Metro? I used to go out with a sub on Metro Online... she was insane. Truly, truly nuts and completely obsessed with the Fall. *shudder*

DonDaddyD

spen666 wrote:

DonDaddyD wrote:

I really don't get all the uproar about having to pay to go to a bike show/convention.

Firstly something has to pay for the venue, organisers sheer logistics of arranging a place where a large number of bike retailers can be situated in one place so that bike enthusiasts don't have to go trekking around the country to visit their shops. - I may never see a Focus, or a Ribble in the flesh, not one that isn't owned by someone else, sitting on it, touching it, speaking to a retailer about it face2face may persuade me to buy it where as seeing it on the internet may not be enough. - So the cycle show does have at least one purpose.

Sure you have to pay but it is very much an exhibition (new '09 bikes and components) as much as it is a chance to buy stuff. Its an event where most retailers get to show off their wares in one place (making it easier for the attendees) and usually at a discount because of the close proximity.

At the very least its fun to see all the new shiny bike stuff, who wouldn't pay for fun? :shock:

so would you be happy to pay to watch adverts for Heinz beans on TV? Pay as you watch adverts?
No - well why pay to watch these bike adverts

I mean - somebody has to film TV adverts & somebody has to pay for the TV air time

Its an event where most retailers get to show off their wares in one place

so are the adverts on TV


You are a mug if you are paying someone for the opportunity to be sold something

Ironically I think you're a mug for not realising that you actually do pay for TV adverts. I do take your point it's just that I think its blinkered and shortsighted.

I shall repeat for clarity:

Bike's interest me, looking at bikes and talking about bikes and their components interest me. Being able to see what manufacturers and retailers are offering all under one roof is a convenience and a fun day out I am willing to pay for, if the price is reasonable. If I did not like bikes I would not go.

Given that a lot of these retailers will have bikes on display that I will not have seen in the flesh (like bikes that are available online) its a good oppurtunity to see them. Given the £1000+ I'm likely to spend on my next bike the cost of reassurance having seen said bike in said flesh before making my purchase will be an invaluable one compared to the actual cost of going to the cycle show.

Equally, as mentioned before all these retailers in close proximity will be in competition with each other for business and may be willing to to discount more on the day than in their stores or online. - Certainly the case at a comic convention...

But most importantly I'm going because bikes interest me and I will find it fun, an expense I am willing to pay for.

spen666

DonDaddyD wrote:

spen666 wrote:

DonDaddyD wrote:

I really don't get all the uproar about having to pay to go to a bike show/convention.

Firstly something has to pay for the venue, organisers sheer logistics of arranging a place where a large number of bike retailers can be situated in one place so that bike enthusiasts don't have to go trekking around the country to visit their shops. - I may never see a Focus, or a Ribble in the flesh, not one that isn't owned by someone else, sitting on it, touching it, speaking to a retailer about it face2face may persuade me to buy it where as seeing it on the internet may not be enough. - So the cycle show does have at least one purpose.

Sure you have to pay but it is very much an exhibition (new '09 bikes and components) as much as it is a chance to buy stuff. Its an event where most retailers get to show off their wares in one place (making it easier for the attendees) and usually at a discount because of the close proximity.

At the very least its fun to see all the new shiny bike stuff, who wouldn't pay for fun? :shock:

so would you be happy to pay to watch adverts for Heinz beans on TV? Pay as you watch adverts?
No - well why pay to watch these bike adverts

I mean - somebody has to film TV adverts & somebody has to pay for the TV air time

Its an event where most retailers get to show off their wares in one place

so are the adverts on TV


You are a mug if you are paying someone for the opportunity to be sold something

Ironically I think you're a mug for not realising that you actually do pay for TV adverts. I do take your point it's just that I think its blinkered and shortsighted.

Erm, I think you will find that I don't pay to watch the adverts- I may pay for the cost of the adverts in the cost of the product- if I buy one. You do this twice over here. You pay for the product and p[//quote]ay the exhibitor to show you the product

I shall repeat for clarity:

Bike's interest me, looking at bikes and talking about bikes and their components interest me. Being able to see what manufacturers and retailers are offering all under one roof is a convenience and a fun day out I am willing to pay for, if the price is reasonable. If I did not like bikes I would not go.

[/quote] i like bikes and own far too many ( SWMBO says so) but I will not pay anyone for the privilege of simply looking at products they want to sell me.

Imagine having to pay to go into car showroom to look at car you want to purchase.

It wouldn't be so bad if you got the cost of the ticket back against any purchases you made there- but you don't

Given that a lot of these retailers will have bikes on display that I will not have seen in the flesh (like bikes that are available online) its a good oppurtunity to see them. Given the £1000+ I'm likely to spend on my next bike the cost of reassurance having seen said bike in said flesh before making my purchase will be an invaluable one compared to the actual cost of going to the cycle show.

Equally, as mentioned before all these retailers in close proximity will be in competition with each other for business and may be willing to to discount more on the day than in their stores or online. - Certainly the case at a comic convention...

I always thought cycling show was a joke

But most importantly I'm going because bikes interest me and I will find it fun, an expense I am willing to pay for.

DonDaddyD

spen666 wrote:

Erm, I think you will find that I don't pay to watch the adverts- I may pay for the cost of the adverts in the cost of the product- if I buy one.

:roll: If we must get pedantic about this, the adverts on BBC, yes the ones between programmes that advertise other programmes, you pay for those through your TV Licence. If you have Sky, anytime they show a Sky branded advert, normally at the start and end of each commercial break and between programmes you pay for those as well. They are included in the cost of the TV licence and Sky broadcasting bill respectively. :roll:

Ii like bikes and own far too many ( SWMBO says so) but I will not pay anyone for the privilege of simply looking at products they want to sell me.

Arguably, anytime you look at a product online, your paying to look at those as well. Sure your not paying the retailer to visit their site, but by going to the cycling show I'm not paying the retailer there either! I'm paying the event organiser much like you'd be paying the internet provider. The principle is the same.

Imagine having to pay to go into car showroom to look at car you want to purchase.

Actually I can imagine this, motor shows like the British Motor show or the one in France that showcases soon to be released and concept vehicles are popular World Wide....

It wouldn't be so bad if you got the cost of the ticket back against any purchases you made there- but you don't

But its not the retailers that are organising they are merely attending. Your paying the event organisers and as I said it is far easier to see all the stores in one place than traverse the country. It's also quite cool to see bike you wouldn't normally see, this may help influence a decision when spending large amounts - like on a Focus. - I like how you ignore that point.

I always thought cycling show was a joke

But most importantly I'm going because bikes interest me and I will find it fun, an expense I am willing to pay for. I think this still stands.

Fair play if you don't want to go, I still want to. Lets agree to disagree.

ChrisLS

...oh shut up and stop this silly argument...I'm going, go every year...a great day out. 8) ..let's have a meet up...

patchy

ChrisLS wrote:

...oh shut up and stop this silly argument...I'm going, go every year...a great day out. 8) ..let's have a meet up...

agreed. near the end of the day so everyone can show off their shiny new toys (and those that want more can still dash off and buy them!)

biondino

Odds on Spen never having worn a shirt with a logo on it, anyone?

batch78

I believe Spen has no use for shirts, it is merely enough to be enveloped in a shroud of righteousness.

:twisted:

biondino

You know, I have adblocker and I can still see multiple adverts for some filthy rag called "Cycling Plus" on this very page and they're not even paying me to have it on my screen! Any of my colleagues could walk past, and after they've finished bollocking me for non-work websurfing they could go and buy the magazine! Where's my cut, Mr Editor??

selfpropelledpaolo

News just in, Cycle Show, IFMA, Interbike, Eurobike, all cancelled, apparently the whole industry has got together and decided we'll just have one type of bike from now on, one range of cycling clothing and just one kind of tyres, and the bad news is that's going to be michelin world tour.

THe good news is, imagine how much cheaper everything is going to be now we don't have to pay for all that nasty advertising, R&D etc etc.

now where did I leave my toe clips...