Who remembers CONI targetting Lampre earlier this year?

iainf72

Just having a look through the lists of transfers and what not and noticed that they're have 3 positives this year.

So it looks like the CONI pitbull was on the money again.

Does that make them this years team evil?

secretsqirrel

You know none are more evil than Astana :roll:

Stirring again .........tut!

Kléber

Team Evil? It's a PR game, surely it has to be Saunier Dopage / American Bull?

Not only do they rock the sport with Ricco, they have the slippery Piepoli, so asthmatic he coughed up a confession and just recently they've been rumbled again in the Mayo case. Above all, they get their staff to write letters which only highlights the dodgy names in the background from Mauro "PFC" Gianetti to the former Lampre team doctor behind Rumsas. On top of this, they make no changes to the team's ways, then they get barred from the Vuelta and also they find a company whose business model relies on hormone use to sponsor them.

iainf72

In theory because they've had 3 positives Lampre should've suspended themselves from competition. Although that ethical nonsense seems to have gone out the window now. Mind you, Astana did it last year.

American Beef are bad though.

jimmythecuckoo

Who are that Portugeuse team that had loads of positives ... MRR or something. They are my team evil (he says, successfully avoiding Rock Racing).

iainf72

jimmythecuckoo wrote:

Who are that Portugeuse team that had loads of positives ... MRR or something. They are my team evil (he says, successfully avoiding Rock Racing).

RR can't be evil. They've had no positives and have an independant dope testing regime.

Yorkman

At least the Lampre riders stay upright, unlike the amazing Barlowworld boys who forgot to stay on their bikes as soon as one of their team turned positive.

OFOAB

Yorkman wrote:

... unlike the amazing Barlowworld boys who forgot to stay on their bikes as soon as one of their team turned positive.

Graham Brown's "memory loss" took place about 20 metres away from me. It's not an experience I would like to repeat, never mind him I would guess .. and it was nothing like a bad fall by tour standards.

He got a great round of applause and cheers when he finally remounted and rode on, but was eventually sidelined into hospital in Quillan an hour or two later.

blazing_saddles

Seems all you have to do, to avoid being suspected of doping, is to adopt and independent dope testing regime.
Then you can program you riders, free from suspicion.
Interesting Olympic ITT results, I thought.

Richrd2205

Blazing Saddles wrote:

Seems all you have to do, to avoid being suspected of doping, is to adopt and independent dope testing regime.
Then you can program you riders, free from suspicion.
Interesting Olympic ITT results, I thought.

I'm not convinced that the ITT was terribly off form, but I think your overall point is quite sound.
Columbia & Astana (& Garmin until a few weeks ago) have (had) internal schemes with no external validation. Internal standards with no external validation are rarely worth the press releases they're advertised on IME...
CSC's regime is not by any stretch of the imagination bombproof, so I worry about the others that have no facility for external checks.
(This might explain my thinking behind previous posts...)