Campagnolo or Shimano

DonDaddyD
DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
edited August 2008 in Road beginners
Ok Cycling's second most taboo subject - second only to helmets...

Generally what are the benefits and draw backs to Campagnolo compared to Shimano? What are the differences?

Which do you prefer and why?
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  • will3
    will3 Posts: 2,173
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    Ok Cycling's most taboo subject.

    Generally what are the benefits and draw backs to Campagnolo and Shimano? What are the differences?

    [if only Campagnolo and Shimano made helmets. Then we could get two threads for the price of one.........]
  • Parkey
    Parkey Posts: 303
    will3 wrote:
    [if only Campagnolo and Shimano made helmets. Then we could get two threads for the price of one.........]

    Helmets with red and green lights on them.
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  • jonesey10
    jonesey10 Posts: 239
    The differences...
    Shimano make fishing tackle. I rest my case.
    Close thread.
  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    Ok Cycling's most taboo subject.

    Generally what are the benefits and draw backs to Campagnolo and Shimano? What are the differences?

    Benefits - they are really helpful in shifting your bikes gears and stopping your forward motion.
    Draw backs - none that I can think off
    Differences - One is called Campagnolo and the other is Shimano

    Dennis Noward
  • ride_whenever
    ride_whenever Posts: 13,279
    Everyone knows they are both actually the same company, and the competition is just a marketing scam to avoid price fixing alegations.
  • Campy King
    Campy King Posts: 201
    Campagnolo - expensive, no other draw backs. Not sure about the other one, what was the name again??
  • Ambermile
    Ambermile Posts: 117
    Campagnolo only make bike stuff. So they are blinkered and have tunnel vision... Shimano have a more widespread range and so can look at things from different directions.

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  • fuzzynavel
    fuzzynavel Posts: 718
    Campy King wrote:
    Campagnolo - expensive, no other draw backs. Not sure about the other one, what was the name again??

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  • jonesey10
    jonesey10 Posts: 239
    Ambermile wrote:
    Campagnolo only make bike stuff. So they are blinkered and have tunnel vision... Shimano have a more widespread range and so can look at things from different directions.

    Arthur ... shitstorm.gif

    Nice try Arthur, that argument is like saying Ferrari's are rubbish cause they only concentrate on building cars.
  • Ambermile
    Ambermile Posts: 117
    Well, aside from the fact that *you* might like Ferraris and *I* may think they are rubbish, Ferrari do make a lot more than just cars these days :twisted:

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  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    Everyone knows they are both actually the same company, and the competition is just a marketing scam to avoid price fixing alegations.

    I knew it. I just knew it, but didn't really have any proof until your post on the Internet
    proved it. If only the rest of the world knew the truth as we know it. Then they
    would know what suckers they all are to fall for all these years of lies and deceit.

    Dennis Noward
  • ride_whenever
    ride_whenever Posts: 13,279
    dennis, you are very very silly, and it makes me giggle. :lol:
  • jonesey10
    jonesey10 Posts: 239
    Ambermile wrote:
    Well, aside from the fact that *you* might like Ferraris and *I* may think they are rubbish, Ferrari do make a lot more than just cars these days :twisted:

    Arthur

    Well seeing as your getting angry on a very silly thread I'll bid you good day.
  • Ambermile
    Ambermile Posts: 117
    *Angry* ??? what makes you think that? I get angry over important things, not equipment discussions. Maybe the emoticon was over your head a little?

    Arthur :roll:
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  • volvine
    volvine Posts: 409
    as stated in my thread i have used both the campag mirage and now the shimano 105 and i think they both do what they are supposed to do very well.
    but having used both now with no loyalties to either brand i would chose the shimano but would no way be put off buying a bike because it had campag gear on it.
    :roll:
  • Clever Pun
    Clever Pun Posts: 6,778
    Having ridden both recently, I prefer the style and grip of the campag hoods.. ummm that's the only real comparison I have to offer.

    To my mind campag seems that little bit more special, whereas shimano seems a bit more workhorse
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  • Ste_S
    Ste_S Posts: 1,173
    jonesey10 wrote:
    The differences...
    Shimano make fishing tackle. I rest my case.
    Close thread.

    Yes, but Campag make clothes and corkscrews. Shimano wins !
  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    Campag shifters are easier to use and nicer to look at.
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  • Lagavulin
    Lagavulin Posts: 1,688
    I like elements of both.

    Personally, aesthetically, Campag is in a league of its own and I was never going to opt for a Shimano build on a Wilier (it may have been made by child labour in the Far East but it was penned and painted in Italy. :twisted:).

    So far impressed with Centaur. Love the brakes, quick release design, the shift mechanism is a bit nicer (thumb rests included :P) but while the Ergos are growing on me I still prefer the hoods/STI of the Tiagra on my Allez. More hand/finger positions if that makes sense.

    Have decided to hang onto the slightly ill-fitting Allez in the short-term. Not sure which groupset I'd likely opt for for it's replacement. Still pampering the Izoard and yet to have a wet ride on it so yet to experience Campag in the rain.
  • will3
    will3 Posts: 2,173
    As a user of a vareity of both makes, I really can't see why some people say that campag is easier to use. If you're riding on the hoods, ie with the hood in the crux of your thumb and index finger, you can't reach the button to shift to a smaller cog.
    Shifting down and braking at the same time is not as easy as with Shimano.
  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    will3 wrote:
    If you're riding on the hoods, ie with the hood in the crux of your thumb and index finger, you can't reach the button to shift to a smaller cog.

    Hmm, I can, and it's easier than using Shimano from the hoods.
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  • will3
    will3 Posts: 2,173
    will3 wrote:
    If you're riding on the hoods, ie with the hood in the crux of your thumb and index finger, you can't reach the button to shift to a smaller cog.

    Hmm, I can, and it's easier than using Shimano from the hoods.

    Really? how? With my hands in this position the little button thing is somwhere near the 2nd joint of my thumb. Without moving my hand I can't use the button. On shimano (not Sora ) shifters, however, both levers are in easy reach of my fingers.
    Consequently when riding the italian stuff, I postion my hands further back on the bars so I can get at both shifters.
  • RedAende
    RedAende Posts: 158
    Ste_S wrote:
    jonesey10 wrote:
    The differences...
    Shimano make fishing tackle. I rest my case.
    Close thread.

    Yes, but Campag make clothes and corkscrews. Shimano wins !

    Yes but the Italians are reknowned for their fashion and make wine too. :wink:

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  • Ste_S
    Ste_S Posts: 1,173
    Yes but the Japanese are famous for their fishing

    whalingjapan.jpg

    Oh wait....
  • Campag wears in, shimano wears out, simple
  • Ste_S
    Ste_S Posts: 1,173
    You really must try harder with your campag vs shimano cliches kaiserwood.

    I'll see your "Campag wears in, shimano wears out"

    and raise with a "Campag is for people who look at bikes, Shimano is for people who ride them"
  • will3 wrote:
    If you're riding on the hoods, ie with the hood in the crux of your thumb and index finger, you can't reach the button to shift to a smaller cog.

    Hmm, I can, and it's easier than using Shimano from the hoods.

    Unless you're using Shimano Sora that is.
  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    CheeseyJoe wrote:
    will3 wrote:
    If you're riding on the hoods, ie with the hood in the crux of your thumb and index finger, you can't reach the button to shift to a smaller cog.

    Hmm, I can, and it's easier than using Shimano from the hoods.

    Unless you're using Shimano Sora that is.

    It's just a shame you can't shift from the drops....
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  • volvine
    volvine Posts: 409
    it could be worse we could all still be using the shifters on the down tube :lol::lol:
  • CheeseyJoe wrote:
    will3 wrote:
    If you're riding on the hoods, ie with the hood in the crux of your thumb and index finger, you can't reach the button to shift to a smaller cog.

    Hmm, I can, and it's easier than using Shimano from the hoods.

    Unless you're using Shimano Sora that is.

    It's just a shame you can't shift from the drops....

    You can, you just have to stop concentrating on whats going on in front of your bike for a few seconds :twisted: