Lockout

DTM12
DTM12 Posts: 163
edited August 2008 in MTB general
Where do you guys use your front fork lockout. I have a Fox float 120RL and I never use the lockout lever on offroad climbs. Even though I suspect it'll make things easier for me ! Do you use your lockout on fireroad climbs only, or sometimes on technical climbs as well ? Does it help ? The main reason I dont lockout my fork of rear shock is the fact that I thought that going over bumps etc whilst the fork is locked out can damage and blow the internals, am I wrong ? I think it'd make fire road climbs easier for me but I dont want to do anything hazardous to my forks, so therefore I only ever lockout the forks when on the road.

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  • I never use mine (Talas RLC) and same for the rear, my Stumpjumper has a lock out on the Fox Triad rear shock, but every time I've locked it out, the bushings in the lower mount have started to knock within a couple of rides.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,665
    as above,

    i think all of my decent bikes have had at least one lockout either on the front or rear or in some cases, both. but i never use the feature as i tend to like the suspension to do its work.
  • lost-time
    lost-time Posts: 549
    I don't use the lockout on tech climbs as you need/want the wheels to track the ground to give the best traction. I do use both front and rear lockout on some fireroad climbs and all the time if on the road to get to my local trails.
  • ride_whenever
    ride_whenever Posts: 13,279
    It depends how your lockout works, on my RS pikes, when locked out it increases the compression dampening so they bob less, this makes climbs easier because the wheel still tracks (albeit slightly less well) but isn't sapping too much energy.

    Don't the foxes have a blowoff feature, so if you hit them hard when locked out they'll have some give precisely to protect the internals?
  • bells0
    bells0 Posts: 414
    Only use mine when i'm on the road [reba race].
  • cee
    cee Posts: 4,553
    only use mine when commuting to work
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  • Sometimes but only when I'm out the saddle for a short burst, and even then only if there was ample warning of the hill to give time to engage gear, switch the remote and then grab the bar ends. If the trail is complicated forget it. i do think it helps though.
  • dunker
    dunker Posts: 1,456
    on my reba anything flat/uphill smooth it goes on, all downhill it goes off. always on for the road.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,665
    Never use the lockout on my forks. I experimented with it, but found it made no difference.

    When I'm climbing on a smooth surface, my forks don't move anyway, I use my legs to pedal, not my body.
  • gandhi
    gandhi Posts: 187
    I only use it when I'm on tarmac. I'd love to know how much difference it actually makes - has any one seen any technical articles / data?
  • ride_whenever
    ride_whenever Posts: 13,279
    When I'm climbing on a smooth surface, my forks don't move anyway, I use my legs to pedal, not my body.

    Surely the act of pedalling will generate compression on the forks as you're pushing down, even if you claim you effectively just use your wieght, you're expending energy in an up-down fashion and there is the dead spot so your effective weight will vary through the pedal stroke, hence there should be susspension movement.

    How stiff are your forks? :?
  • grumsta
    grumsta Posts: 994
    Only just got a bike with lockout on the forks but I usually put it on for long fire road or road climbs - seems a bit more efficient. I also put propedal on.
  • tombate911
    tombate911 Posts: 1,590
    i only use mine for roads or when doing a climb i will use the motion control to tune out some bob when pedaling out of the sadle but keeping the forks active,
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,665
    When I'm climbing on a smooth surface, my forks don't move anyway, I use my legs to pedal, not my body.

    Surely the act of pedalling will generate compression on the forks as you're pushing down, even if you claim you effectively just use your wieght, you're expending energy in an up-down fashion and there is the dead spot so your effective weight will vary through the pedal stroke, hence there should be susspension movement.

    How stiff are your forks? :?
    my forks are set with 30% sag, and the damping is set pretty fast.
    I guarantee you that they don't bob on smooth climbs. I'd be willing to prove it somehow too. :roll:
  • ride_whenever
    ride_whenever Posts: 13,279
    I demand a video...

    How much stiction do you have?
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,665
    not much stiction. Forks are bedded in nicely now.

    I'll try and get a video up soon then.

    (Incidentally, why are you so bothered by this?)