Best Wheels ???

dlrogers
dlrogers Posts: 22
edited August 2008 in Workshop
I need a new set of wheels for my bike. They have to fit a Sram rear cassette.
The only problem is I seem to buckle my current rear wheel quite easily.
I'm a 16 stone rugby player so need something that will take the strain but won't break the bank !!!

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  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    Lightweights?

    http://www.carbonsports.com/LW_Standard.lasso

    You gave no budget :wink:
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  • dlrogers
    dlrogers Posts: 22
    I wish !!! :shock:
    To be honest I only need a rear wheel as this is the one that seems to struggle. I've thought about some handbuilts Mavic Open Pros on 105 hubs maybe ???
    I've only got a very limited budget £200 max
  • dlrogers wrote:
    I wish !!! :shock:
    To be honest I only need a rear wheel as this is the one that seems to struggle. I've thought about some handbuilts Mavic Open Pros on 105 hubs maybe ???
    I've only got a very limited budget £200 max

    Very good choice. You should get open pros on Ultegra for this price - go for double butted spokes, 36 of them if you want a stronger wheel.

    Cheers, Andy
  • Not double butted, they'll be weaker. Go for stainless steel, thats the strong way to go. SRAM fits Shimano hubs too.
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  • robbarker
    robbarker Posts: 1,367
    Not double butted, they'll be weaker.

    A popular misconception! The thinner section of a double-butted spoke stretches more easily than a thicker cross-section one would. This means that the spoke is more easily able to elastically deform in use, thus reducing stress on the spoke elbow, which is where they generally fail first.

    To answer the original question, I'm 15 and a bit stone of tight five forward and 32 spoke wheels tensioned properly work for me. I'd suggest 36 spoke Ultegra hubs laced to DT RR 1.2 rims but built competently - the strength of a wheel is contained in the tension in the spokes, so you need a wheel with high, even spoke tension.
  • At Ribble, you can Ultegra hubs with Open Pro or CXP33 rims for ~£150, in their summer sale.

    Generally, I think the concensus is that CXP33 rims are slightly better suited to us riders over 80Kg (12.5 stone)...
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  • Beardy10
    Beardy10 Posts: 115
    I am a 16 1/2 stone ex Rugby Player.

    I have handbuilt wheels....they are DT Swiss RR1.1 rims on Dura Ace Hubs....32 spokes. The 1.1 rims are quite a bit lighter than the 1.2 rims..I imagine the 1.2's are stronger?

    I ride quite a bit in London so they have taken a fair bit of abuse and have had absolutely no problems. Had no problems on hilly trips out of town either.

    I dont know exactly how much they cost as I specced them on my bike from Condor instead of some Fulcrum wheels.

    The DT rims are quite light and obviously the Dura Ace hubs is expensive but I sure the same rim on 105 or Ultegra must come in close to your budget.

    I am no expert on these things but I see you are in the South East and I have seen elsewhere on a thread that the wheelbuilder at Condor is supposed to be one of the best so might be worth giving them a ring. If nothing else they should be able to tell you what they would recommend....building bikes to deal with London potholes they should have an idea of what's a good combination.
  • robbarker
    robbarker Posts: 1,367
    The DT 1.2 rims are probably stronger in themselves as they are a deeper section, but crucially they (and the 1.1s come to that) have a higher specified maximum spoke tension than Mavic rims.

    The strength of a wheel is in the spoke tension, so this is a good thing. You just need to find a wheel builder who will build them to the maximum recommended tension.

    The downside is they are generally felt to be more difficult to fit tyres to.
  • zenzinnia
    zenzinnia Posts: 698
    My wheelbuilder says that CXP33s develop flatspots when used by heavier riders. Best thing is to talk to a good wheelbuilder about what you want out of the wheels and see what they say.
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  • robbarker wrote:
    Not double butted, they'll be weaker.

    A popular misconception! The thinner section of a double-butted spoke stretches more easily than a thicker cross-section one would. This means that the spoke is more easily able to elastically deform in use, thus reducing stress on the spoke elbow, which is where they generally fail first.

    Agreed!
  • NervexProf
    NervexProf Posts: 4,202
    dlrogers wrote:
    I wish !!! :shock:
    To be honest I only need a rear wheel as this is the one that seems to struggle. I've thought about some handbuilts Mavic Open Pros on 105 hubs maybe ???
    I've only got a very limited budget £200 max

    Very good choice. You should get open pros on Ultegra for this price - go for double butted spokes, 36 of them if you want a stronger wheel.

    Cheers, Andy

    I second Andrew's recommendation -= 36 spokes a must!

    Mavic Open Pro's are a rim that is nearly bombproof.

    I assume that you have a SRAM compatible hub? - is this a 36 hole drilling?
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