Intergrated Forks.
Just a quicky, can i fit intergrated forks to a frame that has a semi intergrated headset.
Oh, and can i fit a 9spd cassette to a wheel with an 8spd hub, cheers.
Oh, and can i fit a 9spd cassette to a wheel with an 8spd hub, cheers.
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Pretty sure you'll be able to put a 9 speed cassette on a 8 speed0
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As long as you get the correct steerer diameter, either 1" or 1 1/8" you'll be fine. There's no difference between integrated and non-integrated forks other than the top of the fork legs on integrated ones are designed to give a smooth look between fork and head tube when used with integrated and semi-integrated headsets.0
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Ok i'll tell the full story, I've just orderd a boardman road frame, according to their spec sheet the complete Boardman bike has a semi intergrated headset, obviously the new frame won't come with a headset soooooo which headset would i need to buy.....intergrated or semi intergrated, cheers BTW.0
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Have a read at the following link and you'll be better equipped to find out:
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Paul Sh wrote:Ok i'll tell the full story, I've just orderd a boardman road frame, according to their spec sheet the complete Boardman bike has a semi intergrated headset, obviously the new frame won't come with a headset soooooo which headset would i need to buy.....intergrated or semi intergrated, cheers BTW.
You'll need semi-integrated. The two aren't interchangable AFAIK, they have different angled faces for the bearings.
Looking at the specs of the Boardman road frames they come fitted with an FSA Orbit CE headset as stock, which is the 45/45 degree bearing type known as Campag standard. Ritchey and Campag themselves also make headsets using this standard. Regular integrated headsets won't fit as most of those are 36/45 degree known as IS or Cane Creek standard.
Stick to the 45/45 degree Campy standard and all will be rosy but to be honest I'd be tempted to just get the FSA Orbit CE to be on the safe side. FSA make very good kit. The Kona Zing Supreme comes with the same headset and costs £2300 so they can't be bad.0 -
System wrote:Paul Sh wrote:Ok i'll tell the full story, I've just orderd a boardman road frame, according to their spec sheet the complete Boardman bike has a semi intergrated headset, obviously the new frame won't come with a headset soooooo which headset would i need to buy.....intergrated or semi intergrated, cheers BTW.
You'll need semi-integrated. The two aren't interchangable AFAIK, they have different angled faces for the bearings.
Looking at the specs of the Boardman road frames they come fitted with an FSA Orbit CE headset as stock, which is the 45/45 degree bearing type known as Campag standard. Ritchey and Campag themselves also make headsets using this standard. Regular integrated headsets won't fit as most of those are 36/45 degree known as IS or Cane Creek standard.
Stick to the 45/45 degree Campy standard and all will be rosy but to be honest I'd be tempted to just get the FSA Orbit CE to be on the safe side. FSA make very good kit. The Kona Zing Supreme comes with the same headset and costs £2300 so they can't be bad.
So does this mean i'm restricted in my fork choice, because looking around especially on chain reaction all the forks seem to be intergrated... Come to think of it i don't thinjk i've ever seen semi intergrated forks.
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OK, there's some confusion here - not helped by the fact that Boardman bikes appear to take two different headset standards depending on which frame you get. The higher end Team and Pro take an Orbit CE, which is an integrated headset (simply one of two standards for integrated headset), whilst the Comp claims to take a semi-integrated without stating what. The difference between the two is that whilst integrated headset bearings simply drop into the headtube, with a semi-integrated headset you press fit cups in much the same way as for a conventional headset, only the cups and bearings fit entirely within the head tube. The good news is that a semi-integrated headset will work perfectly with an integrated fork, since the headtube diameter is much the same - in fact an integrated fork will work with a conventional headset, it's just cosmetics making the outside diameter match the head tube size for integrated or semi-integrated frames.
What you do need to do though is clear up what type of headset you need, noting that as I mentioned above the Orbit CE is an integrated, not semi-integrated headset.0 -
aracer wrote:OK, there's some confusion here - not helped by the fact that Boardman bikes appear to take two different headset standards depending on which frame you get. The higher end Team and Pro take an Orbit CE, which is an integrated headset (simply one of two standards for integrated headset), whilst the Comp claims to take a semi-integrated without stating what. The difference between the two is that whilst integrated headset bearings simply drop into the headtube, with a semi-integrated headset you press fit cups in much the same way as for a conventional headset, only the cups and bearings fit entirely within the head tube. The good news is that a semi-integrated headset will work perfectly with an integrated fork, since the headtube diameter is much the same - in fact an integrated fork will work with a conventional headset, it's just cosmetics making the outside diameter match the head tube size for integrated or semi-integrated frames.
What you do need to do though is clear up what type of headset you need, noting that as I mentioned above the Orbit CE is an integrated, not semi-integrated headset.
Very good wright up thanks for that, it is the comp frame that i've ordered so i will see when it arrives, thanks again.0 -
When you get it, use the info at http://www.parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=68 to check exactly what it is - if it's really semi-integrated then it should have a headtube ID of 44mm, which is larger than either of the standard integrated types, and you'll need a Zero-Stack (another name for semi-integrated) headset like http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/Cycle/7/FSA_O ... 360010843/0
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Ok, just been up to halfords and had a look at the bikes they have in the store, the comp does have a larger head tube, the top and bottom of the head tube (where the bearings sit) flares ever so slightly where as the other two models have a more definate deeper step shaped in to the tube, sooooo cosmetically will intergrated forks look ok. Gotta thank you again for being so helpfull.0
