Is Cav in the GB Road Race Team in Beijing?

josame
josame Posts: 1,162
edited July 2008 in Pro race
Or is he concentrating on track only
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  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    I don't know but he wouldn't last too long on the course not being able to climb and all...
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,549
    iainf72 wrote:
    I don't know but he wouldn't last too long on the course not being able to climb and all...
    Which is why one wonders why Roger Hammond, that well known mountain goat, is included?

    We'll be lucky if we get any finishers with the team we're putting out.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    The only guy who might do ok on the course is not allowed to compete.

    So I guess you need to field a squad who can't challenge.

    Although Chris Froome can climb a bit.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • BeaconRuth
    BeaconRuth Posts: 2,086
    andyp wrote:
    We'll be lucky if we get any finishers with the team we're putting out.
    In the Women's Road Race, on the other hand............. could be very exciting indeed for Team GB.

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  • graeme_s-2
    graeme_s-2 Posts: 3,382
    BeaconRuth wrote:
    andyp wrote:
    We'll be lucky if we get any finishers with the team we're putting out.
    In the Women's Road Race, on the other hand............. could be very exciting indeed for Team GB.

    Absolutely :D

    There's a good interview with Nicole in this month's C+, sounds like she's planned her whole year around the Olympics and the World Champs this year, rather than the pro races that she's been so successful in over the last few years.
  • will3
    will3 Posts: 2,173
    BeaconRuth wrote:
    andyp wrote:
    We'll be lucky if we get any finishers with the team we're putting out.
    In the Women's Road Race, on the other hand............. could be very exciting indeed for Team GB.

    Ruth

    Go Emma.........
  • Tempestas
    Tempestas Posts: 486
    What gets me is we are not fielding our UK road champion, he beat the best in UK and yet BC choose to ommit him from the squad.
  • lloyd_bower
    lloyd_bower Posts: 664
    Tempestas wrote:
    What gets me is we are not fielding our UK road champion, he beat the best in UK and yet BC choose to ommit him from the squad.

    If our UK road champion is David Millar, then I think it's fair he's not allowed to compete in the Olympics, GB lifetime ban for drug cheats is fair enough. At least he isn't making a big deal of it like Dwain Chambers.

    I think the womans' 400m champion, sorry I forget her name, was lucky to have her lifetime ban overturned. 3 missed tests should count as a failed drugs test.
  • graeme_s-2
    graeme_s-2 Posts: 3,382
    lloyd bower wrote:
    Tempestas wrote:
    What gets me is we are not fielding our UK road champion, he beat the best in UK and yet BC choose to ommit him from the squad.

    If our UK road champion is David Millar, then I think it's fair he's not allowed to compete in the Olympics, GB lifetime ban for drug cheats is fair enough. At least he isn't making a big deal of it like Dwain Chambers.

    Millar's the British national time trial champion. He isn't representing GB in the Olympic time trial either, presumably for the reason you mentioned. The British national road champion is Rob Hayles, no idea why he's not in the team.
  • Compton77
    Compton77 Posts: 139
    Rob Hayles is the current National Road Champion, won it a few weeks back..
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  • jonginge
    jonginge Posts: 5,945
    Rob Hayles. The RR champs were just before the TDF

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  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,549
    Tempestas wrote:
    What gets me is we are not fielding our UK road champion, he beat the best in UK and yet BC choose to ommit him from the squad.
    Frankly, he wouldn't last two laps in that kind of company on that kind of course. It's one thing doing well on the UK domestic scene, quite another doing the same in the European pro peloton. As Hayles himself showed when he was a European pro.

    I think Ben Swift has a promising career ahead of him but I fear he'll struggle against the likes of Contador, Bettini, Rebellin and Valverde.
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,549
    Tempestas wrote:
    What gets me is we are not fielding our UK road champion, he beat the best in UK and yet BC choose to ommit him from the squad.
    Frankly, he wouldn't last two laps in that kind of company on that kind of course. It's one thing doing well on the UK domestic scene, quite another doing the same in the European pro peloton. As Hayles himself showed when he was a European pro.

    I think Ben Swift has a promising career ahead of him but I fear he'll struggle against the likes of Contador, Bettini, Rebellin and Valverde.
  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,821
    Isn't the squad selection geared more towards 2012?

    Ben Swift will be massive one day, he's already winning in Europe and he's what, 12 years old?
  • Tempestas
    Tempestas Posts: 486
    andyp wrote:
    Tempestas wrote:
    What gets me is we are not fielding our UK road champion, he beat the best in UK and yet BC choose to ommit him from the squad.
    Frankly, he wouldn't last two laps in that kind of company on that kind of course. It's one thing doing well on the UK domestic scene, quite another doing the same in the European pro peloton. As Hayles himself showed when he was a European pro.

    I think Ben Swift has a promising career ahead of him but I fear he'll struggle against the likes of Contador, Bettini, Rebellin and Valverde.

    Riding as a domestique on the pro circuit does not show your true quality, you ride for the first part of the race and often do not finish as your work is in the first hours of the race. Rob Hayles proved his quality by beating the UK's best road riders at the nationals, these riders where in good form and preparing for the Tour. His ommision is wrong in my oppinion.

    Another example of selectors screwing up our chances is in the womens triathlon with Andrea Whitcombe, she has won 3 world Cups this year and has been left out....Lottery funding...Its more like a Lottery for participation!
  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    It's a road race, taking a green youngster today is of little use. If you think can win it in 2012, you don't need to ride now, there's little experience to be gained from lapping Beijing.

    Hayles won partly because lesser riders managed to sneak away. The likes of Millar and Cavendish were said to be the strongest in the race by far but were marked too much.
  • ricadus
    ricadus Posts: 2,379
    Rob Hayles proved his quality by beating the UK's best road riders at the nationals, these riders where in good form and preparing for the Tour.
    Lets not forget the self interest of the selectors and other bigwigs in the hierarchy –- there might be possible MBEs at stake were he to fail another blood check like he did 4 months ago. :roll:
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  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,549
    Tempestas wrote:
    Riding as a domestique on the pro circuit does not show your true quality, you ride for the first part of the race and often do not finish as your work is in the first hours of the race. Rob Hayles proved his quality by beating the UK's best road riders at the nationals, these riders where in good form and preparing for the Tour. His ommision is wrong in my oppinion.
    If he'd been good enough then he'd have been more than a domestique surely? He wasn't (although he's still a very fine bike rider) so he's had to come back to the UK domestic scene. Which has been proven, time and time again, as inadequate preparation for World and Olympic level racing.

    The selectors were right to not pick him.
  • dave_1
    dave_1 Posts: 9,512
    andyp wrote:
    Tempestas wrote:
    Riding as a domestique on the pro circuit does not show your true quality, you ride for the first part of the race and often do not finish as your work is in the first hours of the race. Rob Hayles proved his quality by beating the UK's best road riders at the nationals, these riders where in good form and preparing for the Tour. His ommision is wrong in my oppinion.
    If he'd been good enough then he'd have been more than a domestique surely? He wasn't (although he's still a very fine bike rider) so he's had to come back to the UK domestic scene. Which has been proven, time and time again, as inadequate preparation for World and Olympic level racing.

    The selectors were right to not pick him.
    I think the British Nationals throws up some weird results and think Dan Lloyd was deserving of a place on the road team over others.
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  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,549
    Dave_1 wrote:
    I think the British Nationals throws up some weird results and think Dan Lloyd was deserving of a place on the road team over others.

    I agree, Dan Lloyd has shown that he can perform in races in China and the course suits him. I've seen no explanation as to why he wasn't picked.
  • dave_1
    dave_1 Posts: 9,512
    andyp wrote:
    Dave_1 wrote:
    I think the British Nationals throws up some weird results and think Dan Lloyd was deserving of a place on the road team over others.

    I agree, Dan Lloyd has shown that he can perform in races in China and the course suits him. I've seen no explanation as to why he wasn't picked.

    what is worse is he seems pessimistic about keeping going as a cyclist in recent interviews. Hopefully Brailsford and the sky sponsored team will come in enough time to let guys like him and the Downings shine at a higher level. Think of missed opportunities from the previous era...guys like Matt Stephens, David Cook, Connor Henry never got the chances to race at pro tour and GT level when lesser riders
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  • mercsport
    mercsport Posts: 664
    " I think the womans' 400m champion, sorry I forget her name, was lucky to have her lifetime ban overturned. 3 missed tests should count as a failed drugs test. "

    She was , indeed , very fortunate . A very British decision . Likely the only hope of a track gold . When I think of Christine - " would I tell a lie ? " Ohuorugu - I begin to feel sorry for Dwain - although he hadn't a hope in hell of getting a medal .
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  • andyrac
    andyrac Posts: 1,197
    mercsport wrote:
    " I think the womans' 400m champion, sorry I forget her name, was lucky to have her lifetime ban overturned. 3 missed tests should count as a failed drugs test. "

    She was , indeed , very fortunate . A very British decision . Likely the only hope of a track gold . When I think of Christine - " would I tell a lie ? " Ohuorugu - I begin to feel sorry for Dwain - although he hadn't a hope in hell of getting a medal .

    Don't start me on that issue - when I heard she had won a Gold at the World Champs I waited for the British press - oh dear, what a surprise. Hardly anything said. If it had been a nasty Russian/German/Foreigner there would've been an outcry.
    How d'you miss 3 Tests?

    How many did Rasmussen miss?
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