Kerap Keos

FOGcp
FOGcp Posts: 145
edited July 2008 in Workshop
I recently asked for some advice on pedals because I had trouble clipping in my old Look delta cleat pedals. I decided on some shimano utegra but allowed myself to be talked out of it at the LBS and bought Keos. Admittedly they are some of the cheaper Keos but they are far worse than the old Looks I had before. They are very hard to clip in even with tension reduced as much as possible. They have a rubber bumper round the cleat which I thought would stop my shoe slipping on the pedal when wet but all they do is stop you clipping in if you don't get exactly the right position 1st time. I'll trim this off to see if this improves things but I think I will be in the market for a non-look pedal that is genuinely easy to clip in.

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  • Nuggs
    Nuggs Posts: 1,804
    I use Keos and think they're great. They do take a bit of getting used to, and the cleats seems to take a while to 'wear in'. If you stick with them, I'm they'll get better...
  • oldnslowcp
    oldnslowcp Posts: 81
    FOGcp- I too use KEO, my second set of cleats came with the rubber strips which are great for walking but stop the cleat sliding into the pedal so I'm assuming this is a recent design change which has ruined the system. The old cleats were great, foot on the pedal, slide forward and "click", simple. Hopefully the design will revert to the older one.
  • over-the-hill
    over-the-hill Posts: 144
    I have same pedals and same problem. I too have posted a topic about it. I have been on 2 50 mile rides, a time trial and a few 18 mile rides and still can't clip in easily. On the club runs I have to sprint to catch up after every junction. I would have thought this was enough to get used to them.
  • cougie
    cougie Posts: 22,512
    I guess you need to practice a bit more.

    A TT would just be clipping in once and unclipping at the end ? I'd have a play with clip, unclip - spend 30 mins doing that, and if you still cant get it - bung them on ebay and get some different ones.
  • fizz
    fizz Posts: 483
    I've got Keo's I think they are better than the old style looks that I had before. As they give a much secure feeling when clipped in IMHO.

    Its jsut technique to get clipped in. I've tried both the older style keo cleats and the newer ones with the rubber bits. No difference to clip into.
  • over-the-hill
    over-the-hill Posts: 144
    cougie wrote:
    I guess you need to practice a bit more.

    A TT would just be clipping in once and unclipping at the end ? I'd have a play with clip, unclip - spend 30 mins doing that, and if you still cant get it - bung them on ebay and get some different ones.

    Yes and you don't want to spend the first few hundred metres trying to clip in!
  • easy
    easy Posts: 17
    I use Keos and think they're great. I have Keo Classics on my commuter and Keo Carbon Ti on my racer. However, I use the normal cleats, without the rubber bits, and use the Keo cleat covers when walking. Not only do they make it easier to walk, they also protect the cleat. Certainly worth a look...

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  • il_principe
    il_principe Posts: 9,155
    Sell em and get some Speedplays!
  • FOGcp
    FOGcp Posts: 145
    Yes jashburnham I think I might! or possibly Crank brothers Quattros. I mentioned this problem to a friend who is a red hot tri boy as well as excellent cyclist and he admitted the same problem. He says he can hardly ever clip in if starting uphill and the only reason he hasn't junked the Keos is that he bought the top carbon ones and can't bring himself to write off the money!
    I have been using SPDs on MTBs for years and have never had a problem in the most claggy conditions yet I can't clip in on tarmac with Keos, It must be me.
  • over-the-hill
    over-the-hill Posts: 144
    I have been using SPDs on MTBs for years and have never had a problem in the most claggy conditions yet I can't clip in on tarmac with Keos, It must be me.[/quote]

    Same.
  • Tom Butcher
    Tom Butcher Posts: 3,830
    Don't have a problem with Keos myself - though I haven't had these cleats with rubber strips.
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  • Nuggs
    Nuggs Posts: 1,804
    Tom Butcher wrote:
    Don't have a problem with Keos myself - though I haven't had these cleats with rubber strips.
    Mine have the rubber strips - never had a problem...
  • johncp
    johncp Posts: 302
    I've just had to go from Look deltas to keos and don't find the keos half as easy to get into although they are usually fine once in. With the deltas it was just engage the front of the cleat, press down and in, with the keos it's more hit and miss, if you get just the right spot first time its easy, if not I can struggle for a while, sometimes 3 or 4 attempts. Once even managed some sort of half engagement which felt wrong, but couldn't fix until it unclipped itself going uphill :roll:
    If you haven't got a headwind you're not trying hard enough
  • itisaboutthebike
    itisaboutthebike Posts: 1,120
    Hi
    I think I posted something in your original post asking for advice.

    As you can see from 'most' of the replies most people don't have a problem getiing in or out of Keo's (although I admit there are few that do).

    HAving read your new first post again, I guess the fact that you have problems with Deltas isn't good news. Again, you're probably not alone in this, but I have to say there are millions of cyclists who find deltas (and Keo's ) ok - but that doesn't help you !

    I suspect it may be your technique. You MAY (or may not ) experience similar problems with other road clipless systems. The new Shimano SPD SL's I've heard said can be difficult to engage

    How long have you been riding ?

    After almost 20 years of using deltas (and now Keo's) myslef getting in and out is like falling off a log.
  • myqul
    myqul Posts: 30
    I really liked my Delta's, i never really had any trouble clipping in. I only recently swapped em for Time Axions cuz i wanted better walkability
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  • giant_man
    giant_man Posts: 6,878
    Delta cleats are the easiest to get in and out of, imo. Been using them for a lot of years and I have never had a problem.
  • greg roche
    greg roche Posts: 124
    Erm... Just checking... you're not using them with the removable black rubber cover on for riding are you?

    Once upon a time In the old days (OK, mid 90's) riders complained how slippery the cleats on these new fangled clipless pedals were for walking. The manufacturers developed a little cover for them that you could take off...They are an extra included with the cleats now, but you used to have to buy them seperately. They are to protect the cleat when you're walking on them and stop you from slipping over when walking.

    They are NOT meant to be on when riding.... I'm surprised you can even get then them to work at all on teh bike. Certainly you'll be damaging them and the pedal springs if you are...

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