Made in Taiwan Bianchi ??

bianchi77

I walked around in the bike shop at my town,
I see bianchi with made in Taiwan label ?
Is bianchi creating their bike in Taiwan now ? :?:

nicklouse

Bianchi have been having bikes made in Taiwan for years, since they got bought out.

andy_wrx

And the relevance of a poll 'do you prefer Bianchi or Scott USA' is...?

bianchi77

just wondering which one is more preferable between bianchi and scott...

idaviesmoore

I've got a Scott CR1 and it's very good....whether it's better than a Bee-an-kee...I couldn't really comment

magliaceleste

Why don't you get the shop to let you try them both and decide for yourself?

Bianchi owners will say Bianchi. Scott owners will say Scott.

And yes Bianchi get most frames/forks made in Taiwan, same as almost every other manufacturer. It appears that Assembly/Finishing takes place in either Italy or Taiwan depending on the model.

ride_whenever

I have to say the scott bikes are lovely, and ride really well, I'd rather ride one, although the pista is gorgeous

Ste_S

If it matters to you, Scott get their bikes made in Taiwan and China too.

It's probably easy to list who doesn't get their frames made there these days.

Monty Dog

FWIW Scott's bike division is based in Switzerland - the USA moniker is only to attract jingistic Americans in the mistaken belief they're buying a US product - all their frames AFAIK are made in Taiwan. Bianchi still have a Reparto Corse division where they make their high-end frames in Italy.

blorg

Scott was originally a US company but corporate HQ is now in Switzerland. Scott manufacturing is in Asia. Bianchi is also mostly Asia.

There is a very good page on this here from Kerry Roberts. He goes into great detail on a lot of brands, including Bianchi and Scott. One of the key points is regarding the "made in" sticker on your bike- from a US perspective (and I think the EU is similar) if over 60% of the value-add comes from (say) Italy, they can slap a "Made in Italy" sticker on it. So if your Bianchi frame costs Bianchi $200 from China but they paint, decal, assemble and box the bike in Italy and ultimately retail it for $4,000 it is "made in Italy."

There are still carbon bikes manufactured outside Asia- Trek does actually make all the Madones (excepting the 4.X) in the US and Time manufactures even it's "low end" stuff (although to me "low end" Time is an oxymoron) in France.

blorg

Nothing wrong in manufacturing in China/Taiwan BTW, they are after all the experts

ride_whenever

Look at the quality of the frames they are producing...

blorg

No, Look are made in France.

ride_whenever

I will destroy you... :evil:

ringomon

Blorg- Look 555's are made in Asia. The rest of the line-up is still all French I believe.

blorg

Lysander

I think every De Rosa comes from their factory in Milan.

giant_man

bianchi77 wrote:

I walked around in the bike shop at my town,
I see bianchi with made in Taiwan label ?
Is bianchi creating their bike in Taiwan now ? :?:

Did you actually think they were made in Italy?

giant_man

Lysander wrote:

I think every De Rosa comes from their factory in Milan.

I think you'll find the top models being made in Italy, but the lower ones being manufactured elsewhere.

dennisn

There is a conspiracy theory that ALL bikes are made in Tiawan. At least that's the joke
here in the states. :? :?

Dennis Noward

meagain

"ALL bikes are made in Tiawan"

Only the expensive ones, surely?

Ste_S

Yes, Taiwan outsources to China for the cheaper ones

nicklouse

things can get very blurred where you have frames tack welded in Aisa and then shipped to the EU and US for the finishing welding and then the rest of the treatments (heat, paint...)

Or you can have the fully welded frames shipped and then heat treated and.......

Or.......

broachboy

andy_wrx wrote:

And the relevance of a poll 'do you prefer Bianchi or Scott USA' is...?

Which Tiawanese branded frame do you prefer ? :roll:

broachboy

IMHO Bianchi carries none of the kudos that it did in the good old days, don't get me wrong - lovely bikes and all, but its just not the name it used to be.

All my bikes whatever the 'Name' apart from my Columbus Daccordi were made in the far east somewhere. I think we all expect it these days, unless of course you buy British hand built custom steel etc

bianchi77

I think most frame, from Asia or Italy, has a good quality, don't you think ?

bianchi77

any how the brand is no matter for me, the important is the work best while I'm cycling, since I've ever used an old cromoli frame without any problem for 120 km ride

Rob Sallnow

Even Colnago have its very cheapest alloy and carbon fames built in the Far East....and its new lightest ever carbon frame is too.

inseine

If the brand doesn't matter to you, why have you narrowed the choice down to two marques where you are paying more for the brand. And why are you called bianchi?