Cancellara on Croix de Fer

Ramanujan
Ramanujan Posts: 352
edited July 2008 in Pro race
Someone answer me this:
How can Cancellara, a big powerful TT/rouler, descimate the pelton and drag it most of the way up the 27km up the Crox de Fer , shelling out loads of whippet like climbers on the way up?

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  • Jez mon
    Jez mon Posts: 3,809
    Well, he's a power rider doing a power thing!

    He's given it his all for a few km and will now ride slowly back home, the whippet like climbers will climb the mountain quiker overall than Cancellara who will have given it absolutely everything
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  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    Perhaps because he did the damage on the easy part, at 2 to 5%. As soon as the hard bit came, he went out the back.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Jez Mon beat me to it.

    Those riders he's dropping will finish ten minutes ahead of him.
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  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    He didn't actually drop that many people. The bunch was still 40-50 strong when he peeled off.

    The only people he put in trouble were the sprinters, the domestiques and the guys like Nibali and Cunego who were already in trouble for varying reasons.
  • Jez mon
    Jez mon Posts: 3,809
    Or of course there's the anwer that I think the OP wants...Cancellara is on super duper EPO version 6.9 which not only increases blood's ability to carry oxygen...but also reduces the effect of gravity on the body.

    Seriously though the part of the climb which Cancellara was pulling on would have suited the power riders, and by whippet like climber, do you mean someone like Cunego? Who is to be frank, useless this year!
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  • donrhummy
    donrhummy Posts: 2,329
    Yeah, it was the easier section and he was basically time trialing for that distance and then he's gonna be dropped BIG time afterwards.
  • richa
    richa Posts: 1,632
    Except he wasn't dropped big time and is back with them...
    Rich
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    RichA wrote:
    Except he wasn't dropped big time and is back with them...

    As are about 50 others. Which suggests the pace is not really that high.
  • OffTheBackAdam
    OffTheBackAdam Posts: 1,869
    He's over 12 minutes down at the top of L'Alp, so question answered?
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  • Peakraider
    Peakraider Posts: 143
    The only question worth asking is whether the controls are sophisticated enough to detect whatever he's on. I doubt it.
  • Eurostar
    Eurostar Posts: 1,806
    Cancellara did what Riis told him to - help to keep the pace high all day so that Evans wouldn't be able to chase Sastre. He's just a domestique now - it was OK for him to wreck himself for the rest of the race to help Sastre's attack.
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  • Jez mon
    Jez mon Posts: 3,809
    Peakraider wrote:
    The only question worth asking is whether the controls are sophisticated enough to detect whatever he's on. I doubt it.

    Well whatever CSC are on, it's evidently not as effective as what Ricco was on.

    Hmmm...perhaps it's nothing
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  • campagchris
    campagchris Posts: 773
    Oscar Freire held on for quite awhile too,suggesting the pace wasn't that high.
    Cancellara was 22-13 down and voigt 28-02
  • drenkrom
    drenkrom Posts: 1,062
    :roll:

    That is called riding for the team, aka killing yourself so your teammate lives. If you can only think of doping while watching that, I suggest you try a nifty little activity. It's called bike racing. You'd learn a bunch.
  • Peakraider
    Peakraider Posts: 143
    drenkrom wrote:
    :roll:

    That is called riding for the team, aka killing yourself so your teammate lives. If you can only think of doping while watching that, I suggest you try a nifty little activity. It's called bike racing. You'd learn a bunch.

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  • OffTheBackAdam
    OffTheBackAdam Posts: 1,869
    It's a sad fact, that whoever does a good ride, will be subject to speculation along the lines of "What's he on then"?
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  • moorjohn
    moorjohn Posts: 89
    on the positive side, Sastre looked to get up Alpe d' in 40.5 - 41 minutes this afternoon. Good bit slower than Marco (and one or two other thicker-set riders). so there is reason to hope...
  • moorjohn
    moorjohn Posts: 89
    doh!

    just seen the 'set your stopwatch at the foot of Alpe d' ' thread.

    think S. was slower than 39 though. The climb was 10 m less this year apparently.

    (not that that would take 1 min)


    (well possibly if it was me)