Ricco enjoying this?
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Probably just wincing from being worked over by "Big Jean" of Cell Block C'This week I 'ave been mostly been climbing like Basso - Shirley Basso.'0
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Who's the young lady he's slipstreaming?Le Blaireau (1)0
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With his girlfriend, leaving court:
I think she's a cyclo-cross rider.0 -
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Robbie jackson!0
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One bidon short of a full musette ??0
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his birds a moose as well
'dont forget lads, one evertonian is worth twenty kopites'0 -
He'll be thinking woohoo 2 year ban, tell every one i was forced to do it by a)the team b) the girlfriend c)Pantani's ghost, but hey i've been through hell & am almost sorry, get a new contract in 2 years come back with all the zeal of a reformed doper & every one will go aaahhh he's ok now
Also sell my story earn loads & loads & loads hahahahahahaha!!!0 -
Pantani didn't smile.
Found this on La Gazzetta - translated on Google. Girlfriend is going to 'stand by her man'
Mom worried Riccò
"I do not know how to take"
Mrs Elizabeth worried for the psychological impact that the positivity, the arrest and dismissal from Saunier Duval may have. The girlfriend Vania: "If it were guilty would be disappointed, but I decided to close stargli"
Riccardo Riccò, 24 years, outside the court. Afp
MILAN, July 19, 2008 - "I am especially concerned for the psychological aspect, as this will batosta. He has only 24 years." Elizabeth, the mother of Riccardo Riccò, does not hide his fears about the impact that could have, not only in terms judiciary and sports, the events all'Epo linked to the Tour de France, which led to the dismissal of cyclist Modena by Saunier Duval. Parents of runner waited yesterday in Formigine, Modena, where the family lives, developments of questioning to Foix, happened after a night spent in a gendarmerie.
THE RETURN - In France, to be nearby and return it to Italy, went instead his sister Melissa, his uncle Gianni Ghirri, president of his Fan club, and the girlfriend Vania Rossi, champion of cyclocross, which has returned after the liberation. Riccò did not return immediately home, he stopped for the night along the route with Vania. "At the table last night we have not talked about what happened - told his uncle contacted by phone -. We wanted to distract, but we have seen, however quiet." Now among the first appointments Riccò is the one with his lawyer, Federico Cecconi, to assess the situation and decide the next steps, such as counter that the same cyclist - after being heard by the French prosecutor - said yesterday that you want do.
THE FIDANZATA - "We still have to understand what has actually happened in these days. For now, Riccardo has spoken only with his lawyer French. The time is those very difficult, but I have decided to close rimanergli" means to speak is Vania Rossi .'Google can bring back a hundred thousand answers. A librarian can bring you back the right one.'
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didn't take him long to pick up Di Luca's lawyer.0
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Idiots turning a blind eye again."At the table last night we have not talked about what happened - told his uncle contacted by phone -. We wanted to distract, but we have seen, however quiet.Riccardo Riccò was caught by a special molecule placed in the banned substance he is said to have taken, the head of the World Anti-Doping Agency told the Australian Broadcasting Corp. radio today. John Fahey said that Roche Pharmaceuticals had placed a special molecule in the product CERA when it developed the drug, which would help the anti-doping authorities to detect its illegal use.
"I can't tell you the details of how he was detected," Fahey said. "I can indicate the particular substance is called CERA … which is a perfectly legitimate substance to deal with anaemia. In the development of that substance close cooperation occurred between WADA and the pharmaceutical company Roche Pharmaceuticals so that there was a molecule placed in the substance well in advance that was always going to be able to be detected once a test was undertaken."
Fahey noted that there was increased cooperation between sports authorities and drug manufacturers. "There's more and more of this occurring," he said. "The more cooperation the scientists can have with the drug companies in the detection of performance-enhancing drugs the greater the likelihood is they will be detected when tests are undertaken."
Tracer molecules -- smart. Lets see it happen at the Olympics though.0 -
That kid is an utter dick. The stupid "not arsed" grin as he's leaving court. Hopefully he'll have to get a real job for some of the next two years."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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Yeah Commentator Eurosport, Itlalian branch of course, Richard Virenque has the French slotdisgruntledgoat wrote:Hopefully he'll have to get a real job for some of the next two years. 0 -
Maybe that's what they mean by "gallows humour". I reckon he's p***ed so many people off inside the sport that he won't be back, even after a 2 year ban. Memories are short in this sport.Is he putting on a brave face0 -
Smart until some copycat Chinese or Eastern European lab starts knocking out the hormone minus the tracer on the cheap. Remember Manolo Saiz was caught red handed buying Chinese copy hormones at the start of the Puerto affair. It's not just Gucci handbags and Windows CD-Roms being counterfeited :evil:ricadus wrote:Tracer molecules -- smart. Lets see it happen at the Olympics though.0 -
Well there's not a lot you can do about that - other than rely on testing for the stuff itself, which will also be possible. They had the opportunity to do something about the official Roche stuff and chose to do so, so that's a step in the right direction.Le Blaireau (1)0
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I he had the brains and knowledge to understand the part about the tracer molecule, he'd wipe that grin off his little face. Attacking the test results will be a lot harder than for Landis, and we saw were that went.
Still, I'd volunteer to wipe the smirk off there anytime.
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http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id= ... jul24news2
Riccò's positive not the result of secret molecule
By Laura Weislo
Contrary to earlier reports, Italian Riccardo Riccò's positive for EPO was not the result of a "secret molecule" being added to the drug to allow anti-doping authorities to more easily detect it. World Anti-doping Agency president John Fahey seemingly made the statement on an interview with the Australian Broadcasting Corporation on Wednesday, but the agency's spokesman said his words may have been misinterpreted.
"No marker was inserted in the substance," the WADA spokesman said, clarifying that the tests which are being performed at the Tour de France are of a conventional nature. "Thanks to the fruitful cooperation of the manufacturer of this substance (Roche) and of WADA-accredited laboratories, which started in 2004, WADA received the molecule well in advance and was able to develop ways to detect it, including through the current EPO detection method."
A Roche spokesperson confirmed to Cyclingnews that the WADA president misspoke, and that there was nothing added to the drug to help its detection. However, news of a collaboration between the company and anti-doping authorities are true. "Roche has provided samples of Mircera and assay reagents to the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) to help ensure that WADA laboratories will be able to carry out reliable anti-doping testing."
Riccò's 'A' sample from the Tour de France stage four time trial in Cholet came back positive for EPO, and he and his entire team pulled out of the race. The rider and his team-mate Leonardo Piepoli were subsequently fired. The scandal led team sponsor Saunier Duval to withdraw its support of the team.
It has been widely reported in the press that the molecule found in Riccò's sample was a new form of EPO known as Mircera, or CERA. The drug, which is used to treat anaemia, stimulates the production of red blood cells. It is similar enough to previous versions of EPO that a patent dispute between Roche and its competitor Amgen has blocked the commercialisation of Mircera in the United States. Amgen's patents in Europe expired two years ago, allowing Mircera to be marketed there beginning in 2007.
CERA is a recombinant version of the protein erythropoeitin, a hormone which stimulates red blood cell production in the bone marrow, just like previous incarnations of the drug. It is distinguished from previous version of the drug by being longer acting, like Aranesp, Amgen's longer-acting drug, which was found in the urine of cross country skiers in the 2002 Salt Lake City Olympic Games.
The misunderstanding about the 'secret molecule' may have arisen from descriptions of Mircera, which called it 'pegylated', meaning that it contains a molecule of polyethylene glycol, a stabilising agent which allows it to remain active longer.
"Mircera can be differentiated in samples from both naturally occurring erythropoeitin and from all other traditional ESA products [Erythropoeisis Stimulating Agents -ed.]," a Roche spokesperson stated. "The molecule is designed to assist in advancing the management of chronic kidney disease, not detection of illegal use.
This 'pegylated' protein was rumoured to be undetectable, but cooperation between drug manufacturers and the anti-doping authorities have put detection a step ahead of the cheaters.
Mary Klem, a spokesperson for Amgen, a competitor of Roche which sponsored the Tour of California, told Cyclingnews that this kind of collaboration took place during the Salt Lake City Games, where Amgen scientific director Steve Elliott helped anti-doping authorities confirm that the skiers had Aranesp in their samples.
"Amgen has - and continues to - actively support efforts to help develop effective tests to detect doping. We recently provided a scientific research grant to develop new and improved methods for EPO testing."Le Blaireau (1)0 -
So what's in it for Roche? I don't understand why they are working with WADA to prevent their product being sold more widely. Surely if some big corporation were to approach Roche and make them an offer they couldn't refuse to develop an undetectable version to supply "under the counter", running along side it's detectable version, who would know?Pictures are better than words because some words are big and hard to understand.
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Smart until some copycat Chinese or Eastern European lab starts knocking out the hormone minus the tracer on the cheap. Remember Manolo Saiz was caught red handed buying Chinese copy hormones at the start of the Puerto affair. It's not just Gucci handbags and Windows CD-Roms being counterfeited
probably what the "undetected" riders are using to save some cash
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It's the active compound which is being detected. They could produce an undetectable version, but it would probably only contain saline.
I guess it is good PR for Roche, to be involved in fighting the good fight.Le Blaireau (1)0 -
DaveyL wrote:It's the active compound which is being detected. They could produce an undetectable version, but it would probably only contain saline.
I guess it is good PR for Roche, to be involved in fighting the good fight.
Roche haven't been the most philanthropic organisations over the years, so it is probably for PR, as you say. Given the market dominance of Amgen, any new entrant to the market is going to be contested vigorously. Given Amgens present financial difficulties, they are going to fight extra hard to protect a declining market share and have done so through the courts. Roche probaby wanted to create some positive publicity on the run-up to the Amgen / Roche court case.
Unlike, say, HGH products, "Amgen", " Epogen" & " EPO" have become inxtricably linked over the past few years and are synonymous with doping, at least in the publics mind. CERA is only on the market for several months but has managed to avoid this association in one highly visible action.'This week I 'ave been mostly been climbing like Basso - Shirley Basso.'0 -
It's definitely a PR move. I notice that Amgen have had a spokesperson on saying how they were doing the same years ago with Aranesp. Nice to see pharma companies fighting over who's the most saintly...Le Blaireau (1)0
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He looks like someone, maybe "Big Jean," has plucked his eyebrows in the top photo.Dan0
