No more Team Barloworld

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  • cougie
    cougie Posts: 22,512
    As the other poster says - i think they were looking to get out of their contract. Didnt festina sales increase after their scandal ? Would anyone really not do business with a bike sponsor just because one of their stupid riders doped ? The sponsors are far removed from the day to day business of the team. I cant see it reflects badly on a sponsor - they dont force epo down the riders throats ?
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    knedlicky wrote:
    Isn't the large independent anti-doping programme what the 12 teams in the MPCC want, and why they remain suspicious of CSC, and the rest? The suspicion is partly based on the likelihood that teams with internal programmes do actually have control and that the programes are possibly used to test how far one can go, and whether certain substances can be picked up.

    That's the one Rabobank is a member of, yeah ? :roll:

    But I agree with them - A better solution would be a subscription based private testing organisation. The teams pay to be tested and monitored and races or ADA's could pay for results from them.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • diarmuid
    diarmuid Posts: 73
    cougie wrote:
    As the other poster says - i think they were looking to get out of their contract. Didnt festina sales increase after their scandal ?

    It's called Brand Management. You don't want your name associated with anything negative. I don't know about Festina sales, but you'd have to do a serious analysis to understand the impact of the doping scandal on their sales. (i.e. if they spent 20million more on advertising the year the scandal hit and their sales increased by 5%, you'd have to work out if without the doping scandal would the increase have been 4% or 6%.)

    T-Mobile pulled the plug on their team after the doping scandal so it's not unprecedented
  • knedlicky
    knedlicky Posts: 3,097
    iainf72 wrote:
    knedlicky wrote:
    Isn't the large independent anti-doping programme what the 12 teams in the MPCC want, and why they remain suspicious of CSC, and the rest? The suspicion is partly based on the likelihood that teams with internal programmes do actually have control and that the programes are possibly used to test how far one can go, and whether certain substances can be picked up.
    That's the one Rabobank is a member of, yeah ? :roll:

    But I agree with them - A better solution would be a subscription based private testing organisation. The teams pay to be tested and monitored and races or ADA's could pay for results from them.
    Rabobank were one of 4 teams who joined MPCC later, after its creation last summer by 6 French and 2 German teams. By the time of their joining, they had supposedly cleaned up their own backyard, including by firing Rasmussen.
  • flattythehurdler
    flattythehurdler Posts: 2,314
    Brand management, but at the end of the day, the decisions about advertising and sponsorship are made by individuals like you and I. Barloworld undoubtedly have one or more cycling fans in their senior ranks. It is most likely that said individuls pulled sponsorship in disgust, not particularly for any business reason.
    I would have (probably, actually possibly).
    I feel sorry for Steve Cummings as he had been promised a seat in the tour next year if he stayed.
    Dan
  • dirk_van_gently
    dirk_van_gently Posts: 826
    afx237vi wrote:
    They should make Moises Duenas break the news to all the other riders.
    Agreed, with no "Security" types to hand :?
    Sad to lose any team, but when it's a direct result of a doping positive, it has to make other riders sit up and take note.
    If you see the candle as flame, the meal is already cooked.
    Photography, Google Earth, Route 30
  • bahzob
    bahzob Posts: 2,195
    Looks like a good news story to me. Over time I would hope/expect that teams will polarize into those with sponsors who will stand over teams and enforce a clean policy and those who wont.

    I would hope that then the clean teams management will be less circumpect than the riders are about pointing the finger at teams they consider dirty and that ASO will make a point of only inviting clean teams onto its events.
    Martin S. Newbury RC
  • andy_wrx
    andy_wrx Posts: 3,396
    afx237vi wrote:
    http://www.robbiehunter.net/diary.php

    Had to laugh at his description of Duenas as "the quiet one [who]never really spoke to anybody..."

    Kinda like when the police catch a murderer and you always have one of their neighbours on the news going "he was a bit of a loner, kept himself to himself, if only we'd known..."

    LOL !

    And doesn't this loner who keeps to himself always turn out to be a cyclist ?

    (either that, or the media report it because it cements in the public view that this person was an oddball...)

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