Mark Cavendish
Am I the only person who has noticed that Mark Cavendish only gives interviews when it suits him?
I've watched all of the tdf this year and when he wins, he's a happy little camper and will interview all day long, but when he's disappointed with an outcome he becomes rude, abrupt and distant.
I totally appreciate why he would not want to give an interview, but he has an army of fans and needs to set a good example for all, especially the young who may admire him.
Especially, when he will want the support of everyone in Beijing. Is he going to continue to shun interviews there thus doing his reputation and image harm?
Basically, does anyone else out there think he needs to brush up on his media skills or am I the only one who thinks this?
I've watched all of the tdf this year and when he wins, he's a happy little camper and will interview all day long, but when he's disappointed with an outcome he becomes rude, abrupt and distant.
I totally appreciate why he would not want to give an interview, but he has an army of fans and needs to set a good example for all, especially the young who may admire him.
Especially, when he will want the support of everyone in Beijing. Is he going to continue to shun interviews there thus doing his reputation and image harm?
Basically, does anyone else out there think he needs to brush up on his media skills or am I the only one who thinks this?
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he wins races-so who cares?'dont forget lads, one evertonian is worth twenty kopites'0
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I do for start. Just as well he wins cos he sure looks like a poor loser at times.0
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I've watched most of the Tour on Eurosport (the joys of working from hom) and thought his interviews have been fine.
Natural euphoria at winning perhaps helps his interviews on those days?0 -
yeah, the interviews he gives are fine, but he was approached on a couple of occasions after he didn't win by the same journo and he ignored him or was seriously blunt and stand offish which was a real shame0
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swissj wrote:I do for start. Just as well he wins cos he sure looks like a poor loser at times.
well dont 'support' him then
actively boo when his grid appears on the telly'dont forget lads, one evertonian is worth twenty kopites'0 -
thats not the point, i don't want to boo him as he is a fantastic athlete and could be a good platform for promoting cycling in the uk. I think its a shame when a cyclist of such prodigious talent only addresses his fans when it suits him best.0
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well I'M going to boo him now coz hes a surly oik!
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
GET OFF MY TELLY YOU HORRID MANX DEVIL!
he should be all nice like that tim henman fellow-now theres a winner! :roll:'dont forget lads, one evertonian is worth twenty kopites'0 -
Any takers for his new nickname, the Mongoose?
http://www.bikeradar.com/blogs/article/ ... oose-17554Jeff Jones
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the mongoose, pourquoi jeff?0
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coz hes always goosed on hills?
or he looks a bit of a .................?'dont forget lads, one evertonian is worth twenty kopites'0 -
I wonder if our very own future green jersey winner would sign the below pic if I met him.
http://www.nancarrow-webdesk.com/wareho ... 0905_t.jpg0 -
You have to decide what you want. A grinning celebrety idiot who says all the right things (As dictated by his PR man) and gets on the front cover of Hello!, or a f*ucking brilliant sportsman who goes out and beats the best in the world on a regular basis.
It's the latter for me, those who don't like it are welcome to the Big Brother contestants.0 -
"Especially, when he will want the support of everyone in Beijing. Is he going to continue to shun interviews there thus doing his reputation and image harm?"
Simply BEING in Beijing for the Games (sic) will be sufficient to damn his (and that of anyother participant) reputation in the opinion of many (mine included).d.j.
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Actually the way to deal with the press, public will come in time
as for today, he is the best thing to happen to raise the profile of british cycling so don't knock him, support him, as he makes more money and increases public awareness he will be taught to be savvy with the press
Remember he's still very young and only been a pro for 18 months0 -
Actions speak louder that words.Cav has said an awful lot so far on this tour.bagpuss0
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give the guy a break for crissakes.
He is only 23 ! how many 23 year -olds could handle the incessant pressure of the media chasing you all dsay long for interviews where they ask the same dumb questions.
Have you any idea how many times he gets asked for an interview a day ? or has to pose for pictures ?
The poor guy can't scratch his ass without it being on the news.
He's just a kid :roll: who happens to be one of the fastest in the world . A supreme athlete and a fantastic credit to Britain's cycling .
I'd love to see how all you knockers would cope with that daily pressure with millions of people watching your every twitch closeup on tv0 -
arse ye gods you cant write arse!- a great BRITISH word but you can write the awful yankee derivative
angry of tranmere'dont forget lads, one evertonian is worth twenty kopites'0 -
How come the IoM is suddenly "British"? It isn't. Nor is it part of the United Kingdom, except for certain international matters (and increasingly less of even those).
Thus
"The UK has no democratic accountability in and for the Isle of Man which is governed by its own democratically elected assembly. In the context of the UK’s responsibility for the Isle of Man’s international relations it is understood that -
The UK will not act internationally on behalf of the Isle of Man without prior consultation.
The UK recognises that the interests of the Isle of Man may differ from those of the UK, and the UK will seek to represent any differing interests when acting in an international capacity. This is particularly evident in respect of the relationship with the European Union where the UK interests can be expected to be those of an EU member state and the interests of the Isle of Man can be expected to reflect the fact that the UK’s membership of the EU only extends to the Isle of Man in certain circumstances as set out in Protocol 3 of the UK’s Treaty of Accession.
The Isle of Man has an international identity which is different from that of the UK. "
And so on.
Source: FCO.d.j.
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oops ! :roll: looks like I started WW lll
so in the Olympics Cavendish will be representing the Isle of Mann will he !
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fast as fupp wrote:ars* ye gods you cant write ars*!- a great BRITISH word but you can write the awful yankee derivative
angry of tranmere
ass...ars* whats the difference it all comes down to the same orifice.
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I guess it would be NICE for Cavendish to be just perfect in every way, but I don't think anyone has the right to EXPECT it of him to the point that they are disappointed, personally. He's a young athlete showing prodigious talent - and he's done some good interviews. I think that's brilliant. Don't forget just how often he is going to have been hassled for interviews and how much effort has gone in to getting the REAL job done'07 Langster (dropped one tooth from standard gearing)
'07 Tricross Sport with rack and guards
STUNNING custom 953 Bob Jackson *sigh*0 -
You may have a donkey as an orifice on your body, I don'tYou live and learn. At any rate, you live0
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As professional atheletes these guys have an unwritten (and probably written in terms of their team contracts) to be ambassadors of their sport.
Having just watched Nicole Cooke’s heroic victory at this year’s Beijing Olympics and the interviews that followed, it struck me that here was an erudite and likeable cyclist performing at the highest levels of competition and winning. Her down-to-earth and pleasant manner couldn’t be more different than the interviews we see of British Tour de France riders. Why is it that Mark Cavendish (whilst an obviously great athlete who is at the top of his game) and David Millar are so arrogant and un-likeable?
One would think that they would be keen to become the heroes of British Cycling but their attitude seems to constantly be working against them. Although arrogance is undoubtedly part of the ‘winning ingredient’ it makes it very hard for me to like them – frankly I spent my time wanting Carlos Sastre to win, a man whose quiet manner seems to engender a certain level of ‘hero-worship’.
Don’t Mark Cavendish and David Millar realise that although most certainly they deserve to be considered world class athletes they are squandering their chance to be role models and heroes for younger cyclists. Perhaps they are keen for the future of British cycling to be equally as arrogant and place cycling alongside football in terms of sportsmanship.0 -
sicrow wrote:Actually the way to deal with the press, public will come in time
as for today, he is the best thing to happen to raise the profile of british cycling so don't knock him, support him, as he makes more money and increases public awareness he will be taught to be savvy with the press
Remember he's still very young and only been a pro for 18 months
Spot-on sir! I've spoken to non-cycling friends who've seen him interviewed and they reckon he's a breath of fresh-air, we finally have someone who's not ashamed of winning!
Call it arrogance if you wish, perhaps it's because, as a nation, we're uncomfortable with winners?Pictures are better than words because some words are big and hard to understand.
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Here we go again :roll:
How do you know what Cooke would have been like if she hadn't won?
When Mark Cavendish wins he thanks everyone especially his team, when he looses he often reacts badly, but part of that comes from, I think, the fact that he feels he has let everybody down.
David Millar isn't really that bad, he's mellowed out a bit recently and he does try hard to make cycling cleaner.You live and learn. At any rate, you live0 -
Cav, looking worried about the "moody northener" dullards, yesterday
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He is extremely talented and is a credit to British cycling. Please dont forget that what Cav has achieved in 2 seasons is more than any other British cyclist in history. He is trained to win not lose - why do we as a nation feel the need to knock down someone who is a rising star. When home he is often seen on local club runs and is treated as iust one of the lads. When he wins the Madison gold I for one will be cheering.0
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meagain wrote:How come the IoM is suddenly "British"? It isn't. Nor is it part of the United Kingdom, except for certain international matters (and increasingly less of even those).
Thus
"The UK has no democratic accountability in and for the Isle of Man which is governed by its own democratically elected assembly. In the context of the UK’s responsibility for the Isle of Man’s international relations it is understood that -
The UK will not act internationally on behalf of the Isle of Man without prior consultation.
The UK recognises that the interests of the Isle of Man may differ from those of the UK, and the UK will seek to represent any differing interests when acting in an international capacity. This is particularly evident in respect of the relationship with the European Union where the UK interests can be expected to be those of an EU member state and the interests of the Isle of Man can be expected to reflect the fact that the UK’s membership of the EU only extends to the Isle of Man in certain circumstances as set out in Protocol 3 of the UK’s Treaty of Accession.
The Isle of Man has an international identity which is different from that of the UK. "
And so on.
Source: FCO.
Last time I looked we werent send national teams to the olympics. As such Cav is representing Great Britain.0 -
manxie wrote:meagain wrote:How come the IoM is suddenly "British"? It isn't. Nor is it part of the United Kingdom, except for certain international matters (and increasingly less of even those).
Thus
"The UK has no democratic accountability in and for the Isle of Man which is governed by its own democratically elected assembly. In the context of the UK’s responsibility for the Isle of Man’s international relations it is understood that -
The UK will not act internationally on behalf of the Isle of Man without prior consultation.
The UK recognises that the interests of the Isle of Man may differ from those of the UK, and the UK will seek to represent any differing interests when acting in an international capacity. This is particularly evident in respect of the relationship with the European Union where the UK interests can be expected to be those of an EU member state and the interests of the Isle of Man can be expected to reflect the fact that the UK’s membership of the EU only extends to the Isle of Man in certain circumstances as set out in Protocol 3 of the UK’s Treaty of Accession.
The Isle of Man has an international identity which is different from that of the UK. "
And so on.
Source: FCO.
Last time I looked we werent send national teams to the olympics. As such Cav is representing Great Britain.
IoM CANNOT be part of GREAT Britain, as Great Britain is a geographic entity ie the Land mass of England, Scotland & WAles.
If it is Great Britain competing at the Olympice, then he is not eligible.
If however it is the British Isles competing, then that is a different matter.
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spen666 wrote:manxie wrote:meagain wrote:How come the IoM is suddenly "British"? It isn't. Nor is it part of the United Kingdom, except for certain international matters (and increasingly less of even those).
Thus
"The UK has no democratic accountability in and for the Isle of Man which is governed by its own democratically elected assembly. In the context of the UK’s responsibility for the Isle of Man’s international relations it is understood that -
The UK will not act internationally on behalf of the Isle of Man without prior consultation.
The UK recognises that the interests of the Isle of Man may differ from those of the UK, and the UK will seek to represent any differing interests when acting in an international capacity. This is particularly evident in respect of the relationship with the European Union where the UK interests can be expected to be those of an EU member state and the interests of the Isle of Man can be expected to reflect the fact that the UK’s membership of the EU only extends to the Isle of Man in certain circumstances as set out in Protocol 3 of the UK’s Treaty of Accession.
The Isle of Man has an international identity which is different from that of the UK. "
And so on.
Source: FCO.
Last time I looked we werent send national teams to the olympics. As such Cav is representing Great Britain.
IoM CANNOT be part of GREAT Britain, as Great Britain is a geographic entity ie the Land mass of England, Scotland & WAles.
If it is Great Britain competing at the Olympice, then he is not eligible.
If however it is the British Isles competing, then that is a different matter.
Does it matter anyway?
Ahh so that is why it is Great Britain and N.Ireland always wondered about that, Thanks Spen.0
