SAUNIER DOPE-AL

emadden
emadden Posts: 2,431
edited July 2008 in Pro race
I have a that very uneasy feeling about Saunier Duval..... Or is it that I hate supposedly grown men on little girls bikes.....
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  • wasp707
    wasp707 Posts: 116
    Well, your feelings don't mean that they dope.
  • emadden
    emadden Posts: 2,431
    wasp707 wrote:
    Well, your feelings don't mean that they dope.

    True, but my feelings are based on many years of riding and even more as a spectator. Itt just seems very odd that so many of their riders are so far ahead of the rest... also I have a deep suspicion of many Italian and Spanish rider these days... It may be a generalisation but there is more innuendo about these riders and their dealings these days than riders from other nations...


    Oh ... and by the way... they all look like they ride little girls bikes ... (well thats what my wife said haha)
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  • Tom Butcher
    Tom Butcher Posts: 3,830
    That's the problem now though isn't it - whenever you see a good performance you wonder. Ricco yesterday, Jens dropping Cunego and Valverde on the Tourmalet today, CSC having 5 men in the lead group when they are supposedly not a big budget team yet do well all through the year - I still enjoy the racing but the doubt takes something away from it.
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  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,549
    CSC have a massive budget!
  • emadden
    emadden Posts: 2,431
    andyp wrote:
    CSC have a massive budget!

    Yeah they get their goodies from this place:

    http://gh-supplier.com/

    Check out those cool vials of EPO... see the email - "hushmail.com" hahaha
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  • Doobz
    Doobz Posts: 2,800
    if they are doping then they must have one hell of a good doctor to be evading all the controls.

    I am inspired by such feats of althletesisim (sp) till something tells me different?
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  • cougie
    cougie Posts: 22,512
    yeah cos nobodys avoided the controls before have they ?

    I've learnt with procycling that usually - if something is too good to be true - it usually is.
    Or was by the time they get busted for doping.
  • PutneyJoe
    PutneyJoe Posts: 242
    Its not going to much fun to watch if everytime someone does something great, like Ricco's ride the other day, you think 'must be dope'. Doesn't it mean the only riding you'll acept is watching a load of similar riders grind over the hill in a bunch.
  • flattythehurdler
    flattythehurdler Posts: 2,314
    Not true. I accept that the teams with rigorous anti doping policies (a la daamsgard) are clean, as well as Fdes J. I am not at all sure about the rest, and reserve the right to sceptical about Italian and Spanish riders with childlike hormones etc.
    Dan
  • Tom Butcher
    Tom Butcher Posts: 3,830
    Do CSC have a massive budget - I thought they weren't amongst the biggest teams - might have been a few years ago I read that or it might just have been Riis saying it to make himself look like a tactical genius.
    it's a hard life if you don't weaken.
  • z000m
    z000m Posts: 544
    you dont need to avoid controls if you have a doctors note.
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  • jimmythecuckoo
    jimmythecuckoo Posts: 4,718
    True in RR's case.
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  • idaviesmoore
    idaviesmoore Posts: 557
    emadden wrote:
    I have a that very uneasy feeling about Saunier Duval..... Or is it that I hate supposedly grown men on little girls bikes.....

    :x Excuse me!!! I've got a Scott and I'm no little girl :wink:
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  • steviedonut
    steviedonut Posts: 69
    emadden wrote:
    I have a that very uneasy feeling about Saunier Duval..... Or is it that I hate supposedly grown men on little girls bikes.....[/quote



    i see where youre coming from but i reckon ill choose to believe i saw a spectacular couple of performances until its proved otherwise
  • humble
    humble Posts: 17
    well - if - doping goes away in cycling - wouldn't it be more likely - that men smaller in stature - with higher power to weight ratios with very good lungs - would be more likely to win mountain stages?

    they would also be expected suffer in the ITTs - this is also to be expected - one would think in the 'real' world.

    so - let the frenchies try and gig them - in the mean time I am enjoying their contributions to the event.

    wasn't David 'reformer' Millar at SD the past couple of years - sounding off against such activities? his sheen didn't take long to wear off there now did it?

    you never know in these matters - certainly - but it does seem the case that if the future of cycling - the kings of the mountains will be the scrawney scrappy little guys - not unlike Ricco and Piepoli.

    /h
  • Ramanujan
    Ramanujan Posts: 352
    I wouldn't be suprised if some of the riders doctors have found new blood doping mechanism that is undetectable at present.
  • calvjones
    calvjones Posts: 3,850
    Ramanujan wrote:
    I wouldn't be suprised if some of the riders doctors have found new blood doping mechanism that is undetectable at present.

    Quite a lot of the 'old' blood doping is undetectable!
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  • Ramanujan
    Ramanujan Posts: 352
    Ramanujan wrote:
    I wouldn't be suprised if some of the riders doctors have found new blood doping mechanism that is undetectable at present.

    I don't want to say I told you so, but I posted the above on the stage that Piepoli won. :shock:
  • martinwitnam
    martinwitnam Posts: 439
    Well, Ricco has been caught out.
    Thing is that he would have been tested after the two stages he won but has had EPO type stuff detected during the TT stage. What's that all about then?[/list]
    Can we fix it?
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  • martinwitnam
    martinwitnam Posts: 439
    Well, Ricco has been caught out.
    Thing is that he would have been tested after the two stages he won but has had EPO type stuff detected during the TT stage. What's that all about then?
    Can we fix it?
    Yes we can!
  • skavanagh.bikeradar
    skavanagh.bikeradar Posts: 1,097
    He's crap at TTs and takes 'new' EPO thinking he can't get caught based on the evidence so far this year that the UCI know he's doping but haven't done anything about it as the test isn't yet ratified. Arrogance in other words. Bet he ain't smirking now though.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    skavanagh.bikeradar wrote:
    He's crap at TTs and takes 'new' EPO thinking he can't get caught based on the evidence so far this year that the UCI know he's doping but haven't done anything about it as the test isn't yet ratified. Arrogance in other words. Bet he ain't smirking now though.

    I believe they detected said EPO before the Tour even started....
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • Cumulonimbus
    Cumulonimbus Posts: 1,730
    iainf72 wrote:
    skavanagh.bikeradar wrote:
    He's crap at TTs and takes 'new' EPO thinking he can't get caught based on the evidence so far this year that the UCI know he's doping but haven't done anything about it as the test isn't yet ratified. Arrogance in other words. Bet he ain't smirking now though.

    I believe they detected said EPO before the Tour even started....

    According to one expert Ricco wouldnt have started the tour if the bio passport thing had been working.

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2008/to ... icera_st12

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