Should I stand my ground on pavements?

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  • Greg T
    Greg T Posts: 3,266
    lost_in_thought wrote:
    Where are you getting these statistics?

    71.56% of statistics are made up on the spot.

    FACT.
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  • factoid
    factoid Posts: 17
    lost_in_thought wrote:
    Where are you getting these statistics?

    http://www.cyclehelmets.org/papers/c2014.pdf

    Chart 1
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  • factoid
    factoid Posts: 17
    More here

    http://www.statistics.gov.uk/StatBase/x ... =78&B2.y=6
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  • Surf-Matt
    Surf-Matt Posts: 5,952
    dondare wrote:
    Noob.

    Man who says he's funny falls at the first hurdle.

    You could PROVE how funny you are by posting something amusing?

    Despite clearly being bright, you come across as being about as funny as a tax return.
  • lost_in_thought
    lost_in_thought Posts: 10,563
    Greg T wrote:
    lost_in_thought wrote:
    Where are you getting these statistics?

    71.56% of statistics are made up on the spot.

    FACT.

    Lol!

    And those that aren't are an exercise in data manipulation to make people think what you want them to think!

    TBCH all this thread is doing is annoying me with the pig-headedness of certain poster... and i can't really be @rsed... so over and out people!
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  • cee
    cee Posts: 4,553
    Hang on......did anyone actually post anything about the OP, or did it just descend into the banality of a riding on the pavement/wearing helmets/all your statistics are belong to us kind of a thread?
    factoid wrote:
    lost_in_thought wrote:
    Where are you getting these statistics?
    http://www.cyclehelmets.org/papers/c2014.pdf
    Chart 1

    And is it just me, or does chart 2 contradict chart 1?

    Obviously standing my ground on a road would be plain foolish, what with it being more dangerous than the centre of the sun (apparently proven statistically), even if my shoelace is undone, and I have my towel.

    If I happened to riding on the pavement (whatever you might think about the ethics thereof, however this was not the OP thanks for introducing it...trolls), I would be courteous enough to give way to pedestrians. If I was a pedestrian, I would expect the same behaiviour, but unfortuantely, everyone is not me (the world would be a far better place), so should I move out of the way, or not? My feeling is no, make them move, but clearly I would also want to avoid injury to myself.
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  • el_presidente
    el_presidente Posts: 1,963
    I was walking at Regents Park Outer circle yesterday at evening rush hour when some blonde on a Pashley (or lookalikey) was cycling blithely on the pavement scattering all in her wake. In particular she made some elderly lady wait while she cycled in front of her. "OI GET OFF THE PAVEMENT" I shouted at her as she passed me, she gave me a filthy look like it was her god-given right to ride the pavement. The irony is that Regents Park Outer Circle is probably the safest road to ride in the whole of central London.
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  • cee
    cee Posts: 4,553
    el_presidente wrote:
    I was walking at Regents Park Outer circle yesterday at evening rush hour when some blonde on a Pashley (or lookalikey) was cycling blithely on the pavement scattering all in her wake. In particular she made some elderly lady wait while she cycled in front of her. "OI GET OFF THE PAVEMENT" I shouted at her as she passed me, she gave me a filthy look like it was her god-given right to ride the pavement. The irony is that Regents Park Outer Circle is probably the safest road to ride in the whole of central London.

    You should've tackled her to the ground a'la New York Cop stylee and immediately taken her to the nearest police station. Cycling like that is akin to murder! Think of the children! And Old People!
    Whenever I see an adult on a bicycle, I believe in the future of the human race.

    H.G. Wells.
  • ride_whenever
    ride_whenever Posts: 13,279
    The more militant members could start wearing headphones (with no music) and stepping across these people then charging them with assault, or whatever...
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  • el_presidente
    el_presidente Posts: 1,963
    cee wrote:
    el_presidente wrote:
    I was walking at Regents Park Outer circle yesterday at evening rush hour when some blonde on a Pashley (or lookalikey) was cycling blithely on the pavement scattering all in her wake. In particular she made some elderly lady wait while she cycled in front of her. "OI GET OFF THE PAVEMENT" I shouted at her as she passed me, she gave me a filthy look like it was her god-given right to ride the pavement. The irony is that Regents Park Outer Circle is probably the safest road to ride in the whole of central London.

    You should've tackled her to the ground a'la New York Cop stylee and immediately taken her to the nearest police station. Cycling like that is akin to murder! Think of the children! And Old People!

    I wouldn't have minded taking down her particulars, that's for sure
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  • snooks
    snooks Posts: 1,521
    snooks wrote:
    I'm going to get me one of those invalid, sit down things with number plates on so I can ride on the pavement, and down the road, and see what I have to scape off my bumper in the morning!!! :D

    Funny (as in weird, not ha ha) thing happened after writing this yesterday...


    I got held up by an invalid car thingy, going down the bike lane...They are the same width (almost to the mm) so maybe all these cycle lanes are just for invalid car express routes and we've got the message wrong...and we are actually allowed to ride on the pavement, cos the roads are being taken up by everyone else! :shock:

    Going back to my OP

    The thing that narked me off was that the road was empty when they cycled by on the pavement.
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  • secretsam
    secretsam Posts: 5,120
    I agree with you

    Kids U-10 are an exception, wouldn't want my tinies out there with WVMs and MaxPower w :twisted: nkers, not yet
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  • factoid
    factoid Posts: 17
    lost_in_thought wrote:
    Greg T wrote:
    lost_in_thought wrote:
    Where are you getting these statistics?

    71.56% of statistics are made up on the spot.

    FACT.

    Lol!

    And those that aren't are an exercise in data manipulation to make people think what you want them to think!

    You did ask.
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  • Bikerbaboon
    Bikerbaboon Posts: 1,017
    any one spot the rubbish numbers used to produce the charts?

    DATA USED FOR CALCULATIONS.
    Walking and cycling: risk per kilometre
    Annual distance walked/capita: . . . . . . . . . .190 miles
    Annual distance cycled/capita: . . . . . . . . . . .43 miles
    Annual distance/active cyclist: . . . . . . . . . . . .800-1,000 miles
    Pedestrian deaths 1999-01: . . . . . . . . . . . . . .850 annually
    Cyclist deaths 1999-01: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .145 annually
    Walking cycling and driving: risk per hour.
    Mean trip speed walked: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .2.5 mph
    Mean trip speed cycled: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .8 mph
    Mean trip speed driven: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .26 mph
    Driver deaths 1999-01: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .1,100 annually.
    Cycling and driving: relative risks through time:
    Cyclist deaths 1970-72: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .380 annually.
    Driver deaths 1970-72: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .1,900 annually.
    Cycling and driving as causes of death on the roads.
    Bicycle fatal accident involvements 1999-01: 155 annually
    Car fatal accident involvements 1999-01: . . .3,700 annually
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  • factoid
    factoid Posts: 17
    These better?

    http://www.statistics.gov.uk/StatBase/x ... =78&B2.y=6
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