s-works or Scott scale?

miff

Morning, having just finally broken my mtb frame I need to get a new one, but stuck with the final choice....I think I have narrowed it down to the Specialized S-Works or the Scott Scale Team Edition but wanted to see if anyone has any feedback before I commit.

I want a hardtail so not considering any full bouncers.

The S-Works has the plus of being a little more robust (I think), a lifetime guarantee and a little cheaper than the Scott, however, the Scott is slightly lighter and a 'better looking' frame (plus integral seatpost) but only has a 3 year guarantee and I have heard they may be weak where the ally joins the carbon at the crank.

To give you the full picture I ride probably twice a week and occasionally race when I can get the time, though will probably commit more when I get the new frame.

Any comments to help the decision will be appreciated, including alternative suggestions.

Cheers.

xtremedash

Not much help to the two you're looking at, but the new GT Zaskar frame looks really good, although no idea what the pricing or availability is like on it.

SDK2007

The 2009 S-Works Stumpjumper HT looks awesome; not available until roughly September though.

Kiwi Kranker

I used to have the sworks hard tail and my flatmate has a scott scale.

Had an ex trials rider bouncing around on the scale last night and it was getting a pretty hard time but was fine. Fortunately for my flatmate who was looking on with a look of horror on his face.

The s works defiinitely has more material in the frame than the scale and my flatmate thought it was a bit 'stiffer' than his scale...I couldnt tell the difference though.

Hope that helps...though probably not...

miff

All useful, the GT option was a bit of a curve ball, hadn't even given it a thought....the frame does look good, seems to be a good weight and obviously a trusted design (plus about £300 - £400 cheaper than the others!).

Whilst I really do like the scale, the pure racer design is concerning me re: durablilty...will have to give it a little more thought.

Have managed to borrow an epic in the meantime so no immediate panic to decide!

ride_whenever

Cotic soda, Ti'll last longer.

As for durability, I'm pretty sure the scale was done by Denk (IIRC) the scott CF wizard so I really would worry about it too much.

papasmurf.

S-works bikes seem to be the preserve of middle aged balding blokes in dodgy lyrca if trail centre car parks are anything to go by..

The scott got a short top tube ain't it..so that migh be an issue. As above some Ti lovely ness would be my choice

Kiwi Kranker

papasmurf. wrote:

S-works bikes seem to be the preserve of middle aged balding blokes in dodgy lyrca if trail centre car parks are anything to go by..

The scott got a short top tube ain't it..so that migh be an issue. As above some Ti lovely ness would be my choice

Porbably because they used to be the only ones who could afford them!

Glad I dont have mine anymore as I am far from middle aged, fat and balding....dont wont to be part of that s work owning crew!

papasmurf.

Not denying the dodgy Lycra though I see

Kiwi Kranker

papasmurf. wrote:

Not denying the dodgy Lycra though I see

Freudian slip of me perhaps?! Never worn Lycra (except under baggies) so maybe I have an underlying desire to kit myself out and display everything to all!

I saw a guy the other day riding in NOTHING but speedos in Richmond park.

I felt ill. That sort of thing should be banned.

miff

I thought the speedos suited me!! :lol

Fortunately I still have my hair but had steered away from the S-Works already.

Cotic Soda looks superb, as does Ti 456, downside at mo is I only have 80mm travel on my forks, wasn't planning on changing them yet and both of these sound like they will be too radical unless I change to 100mm +............might be worth biting the bullet though!

Appreciate the feedback...certainly got me thinking.

Surf-Matt

I'd go Ti if I was looking at this end of the HT market.

So much more durable and won't blow up at the first impact.

mellex

Love the look of that Ti 456.

glen4

Surf-Matt wrote:

I'd go Ti if I was looking at this end of the HT market.

So much more durable and won't blow up at the first impact.

Litespeed Ocoee or cove hummer springs to mind, would be on my wishlist for a top spec HT build

miff

Well after some research and thought....and thanks to all your input Ti is indeed the way forward, there are some really good frames out there, but kept coming back to the Cotic Soda.

Frame now purchased and forks being modified to give me 100mm travel.........hopefully will have it all built for next weekend and back on the trail.

Cheers for the input.