Car drives over girls head in Manchester

FatBurt

Helmet "saves" girls life

The wheels went over her arm and top of her helmet but she escaped with a swollen elbow and bruising to her face

Quite impressive considering that helmets alledgedly have no chance in saving or even aiding safety in the event of a car driving over your head according to some.


It's certainly not conclusive proof that helmets are the be all and end all but it's certainly supported my feeling that a helmet is better than nothing.

dang65

FatBurt wrote:

Helmet "saves" girls life.

Savannah, from Helmshore, in Rossendale, showed the shattered remains of the helmet to fellow pupils at her primary school in an assembly to warn of the dangers of not wearing one.

It's a shame that wasn't worded as, "to demonstrate the possible advantages of wearing one".

I think that's how helmets should be marketed - in a positive way. As in, why not wear one when it obviously could be very helpful in many standard cycling spills?

I've certainly been very grateful for mine on the few occasions I've come off. It may not have "saved my life", but it certainly saved me from a nasty whack on the head, and quite possibly worse.

biondino

dang65, I can only assume the rubbish you're spouting about helmets being useful are a result of the massive rotational shear forces caused by helmet use damaging the parts of your brain that speak sense.

alfablue

Okay guys, its a helmet debate - pile on in!!!

biondino

Sh!t, forgot to sign in with my meanwhile login when I posted the above......

Big Red S

FatBurt wrote:

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Quite impressive considering that helmets alledgedly have no chance in saving or even aiding safety in the event of a car driving over your head according to some.
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You're looking at this all wrong.

The fact she was wearing a helmet made her feel that it was entirely safe to stick her head under a car.

Bikerbaboon

should have been reported as " helmet clad loon attacks car with head"

spen666

Bikerbaboon wrote:

should have been reported as " helmet clad loon attacks car with head"

I'm afraid you lose marks for not blaming it on nu-labour, immigrants and hoodies

Surf-Matt

Bikerbaboon wrote:

should have been reported as " helmet clad loon attacks car with head"

Personally I blame the McCanns and Princess Diana.

FatBurt

Surf-Matt wrote:

Personally I blame the McCanns and Princess Diana.

I blame Diana for me missing a football match.

spen666

FatBurt wrote:

Surf-Matt wrote:

Personally I blame the McCanns and Princess Diana.

I blame Diana for me missing a football match.

should have arranged to sh*g her after the match then

mailmannz

You have all got it wrong!

Quiet clealy this is GW's and the Jews fault!

Mailman

Parkey

This is proof, if it were needed, that wearing a helmet is giving away our soverinty on a silver plate and those buroocrats in the european project gravy train are lining their pockets and feathering their nests at the expense of hard working brits.

boybiker

The whole incident was clearly engineered by the thought police, trying to make people think that it's not a good idea to have cars run over your head and thereby removing the freewill of right thinking people who want to decide for themselves whether having cars run over your head is a good idea or not.
We shouldn't stand for this erosion of our basic civil liberties.

boybiker

I am going to start a campaign to allow people the freedom to have their heads run over by any vehicle of their choosing without a helmet and without any interference from the nanny state.

always_tyred

biondino wrote:

dang65, I can only assume the rubbish you're spouting about helmets being useful are a result of the massive rotational shear forces caused by helmet use damaging the parts of your brain that speak sense.

Totally correct. The skull has evolved to take forces such as that encountered being driven over by a car.

Without the helmet she would have been fine, so all the helmet did was increase the risk of the tyres of the car gripping the helmet and causing a rotational brain injury.

She should be kept in for observation, in case her brain has rotated. It may rotate back at any moment.

Besides, has anyone noticed that this is anedotal evidence and therefore has not, in fact, taken place?

FatBurt

Always Tyred wrote:

Besides, has anyone noticed that this is anedotal evidence and therefore has not, in fact, taken place?

There is also the issue that they're saying the helmet may have saved her life.

Until they do a control experiment and drive over her head without her wearing a helmet we'll never know if this is true or not

meanwhile

biondino wrote:

Sh!t, forgot to sign in with my meanwhile login when I posted the above......

Possibly because you've run into too many trees?

The helmet might or might not have helped the girl survive; it at least prevented traumatic contact between the tyre and the skin. However, so what? This was a freak accident and the conditions have nothing to do a helmet's real job of decelerating traumatic impact force.

Serious bit >> Smarter readers will already have noticed that the speed of the car hasn't been referred except as "slow". The other significant factor is that the car on one side and road on the other will have compressed the helmet, stopping it from flying apart, so preventing one of the main sources of helmet failure. << Serious bit.

So definitely if you're planning to stick your head under a slow moving car, put a helmet on your head. Unless you have access to something better, like a decent saucepan. However if you do use a saucepan wash it out thoroughly, or you'll only make it even more likely that you'll be attacked by bears.

jam1ec

meanwhile wrote:

the conditions have nothing to do a helmet's real job of decelerating traumatic impact force.

Is a helmets job not to protect your head?

Bikerbaboon

boybiker wrote:

I am going to start a campaign to allow people the freedom to have their heads run over by any vehicle of their choosing without a helmet and without any interference from the nanny state.

i do hope by that statement that you are not imposing you will on any of us if we do decide to have out heads run over while waering a helmet, with plenty of intererance from a nanny.

Siechotic

Is a helmets job not to protect your head?

No, It's job is to protect your head.

Bikerbaboon

..............................state

Parkey

Gah near-effortless safety measures. Who needs them!

I hear ocean liners are less likely to sink if there are no lifeboats fitted.

After all, all of the ocean liners that have sunk in the last century have had lifeboats.

QED.

jam1ec

Siechotic wrote:

Is a helmets job not to protect your head?

No, It's job is to protect your head.

that's what i said...

biondino

meanwhile wrote:

biondino wrote:

Sh!t, forgot to sign in with my meanwhile login when I posted the above......

Possibly because you've run into too many trees?

[...]

So definitely if you're planning to stick your head under a slow moving car, put a helmet on your head. Unless you have access to something better, like a decent saucepan. However if you do use a saucepan wash it out thoroughly, or you'll only make it even more likely that you'll be attacked by bears.

Hey, I've never run into a tree, that wasn't on the list of idiotic accidents I posted!

However, chapeau for the last paragraph, I LOLed and indeed came close to ROFLMAOing, until I realised I didn't have my helmet to hand (and as a 6 foot male my head would have hit the ground at a speed of approximately 8mph making a helmet a viable option in the absence of any objects which might have caused rotational injury).

always_tyred

meanwhile wrote:

biondino wrote:

Sh!t, forgot to sign in with my meanwhile login when I posted the above......

Possibly because you've run into too many trees?

The helmet might or might not have helped the girl survive; it at least prevented traumatic contact between the tyre and the skin. However, so what? This was a freak accident and the conditions have nothing to do a helmet's real job of decelerating traumatic impact force.

Serious bit >> Smarter readers will already have noticed that the speed of the car hasn't been referred except as "slow". The other significant factor is that the car on one side and road on the other will have compressed the helmet, stopping it from flying apart, so preventing one of the main sources of helmet failure. << Serious bit.

So definitely if you're planning to stick your head under a slow moving car, put a helmet on your head. Unless you have access to something better, like a decent saucepan. However if you do use a saucepan wash it out thoroughly, or you'll only make it even more likely that you'll be attacked by bears.

Actually, a saucepan would probably not have been as good.

A wok maybe, which is domed.

You guys should watch Discovery Channel.

dondare

The car ran over the top of her helmet. If she hadn't heen wearing it, it might have missed her head altogether.

abbots_mike

sounds like she was on the path in the first place.

Savannah said: "I was going down the hill and some people were walking the other way.
"I moved to the side for them but clipped the wall with my right handlebar. The wheel went around and threw me into the road and into the car."

Simple explanation:
cycling proficiency obviously doesn't teach basic bike handling (riding in a straight line)

nwallace

The car being poorly maintained and having woefully inadequate tyre pressure probably dissipated the weight of the car over more of the helmets surface thus also spreading the impact over a grater surface of her head. Had it been a 1 tonne vehicle wearing fulling inflated 700x23c tyres on all four corners I shudder to think of the result. All vehicles should therefore be required to be fitted with big soft 4x4 tyres.


Serious side:
I think it was one of nick saunders round the world tours on motorcycle where a companion had a 4x4 drive right over him in an accident. The view was that had the 4x4 not been configured for dirt tracks (big fat soft tyres) the injuiries would have been fatal rather than minor rib and back injuiries)

always_tyred

dondare wrote:

The car ran over the top of her helmet. If she hadn't heen wearing it, it might have missed her head altogether.

In fairness, the top of your head is unusually flat. You would very likely have been fine.

downfader

..hmm I have to be honest. I wear my helmet to keep the sun off my head/out me eyes. :oops: