The Chicken Gets a Lickin'

blazing_saddles
blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
edited July 2008 in Pro race
Kind of makes me think Landis got off easy.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id= ... jul01news3

....or, on here, if you prefer.
"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.

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  • Doobz
    Doobz Posts: 2,800
    gutted for him but if he was in the wrong then he needs to be punished.

    I think it will be even more of a low blow if he looses the court case against rabo with the verdict comming tomorrow..
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  • humble
    humble Posts: 17
    Landis never admitted to the wrongdoing - Rasmussen did. It was easy for them to give him the maximum because he cannot dispute it - he stated on the record that he did misrepresent his whereabouts.

    we'll see on the other matter - i think he looses there too...
  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    I wonder what the court is going to say about the team management? It seems increasingly likely that they knew exactly where the chicken was roosting and what he was up to. Could Rabobank be excluded this week?
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Kléber wrote:
    I wonder what the court is going to say about the team management? It seems increasingly likely that they knew exactly where the chicken was roosting and what he was up to. Could Rabobank be excluded this week?

    Too many commercial interests so I'd guess no.

    Rabobank knew - Hell, wasn't Menchov training with him for some of the time he was supposed to be in Mexico?
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    Could Menchov keep up? :P

    Obviously far more guilty of cheating, than Floyd. Shouldn't have gone to Italy, instead of Mexico, but on holidays.
    Missing tests is a transparent attempt to dope, while the French lab simply stitched up a rider for being both American and ginger. :roll:
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • Doobz
    Doobz Posts: 2,800
    I am not so sure that he will loose the case against rabo - If you read the report from the investigation it blatantly says that rabo were aware of his whereabouts.

    Wasn't his dismissal was based on him lying about his whereabouts?

    Surely its not rocket science to prove that rabo just tried to brush it under the carpet and hoped it would go away but when it started leaking out at the tour they had to take action
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  • Arkibal
    Arkibal Posts: 850
    Rass won the court case.
    He got "only" 700.000 euros instead of the demanded 5.5 mill, but anyway.

    Waiting for Rabo's reaction....
  • Doobz
    Doobz Posts: 2,800
    wow 700.000 is better then a kick in the bollocks -

    Is this going to cast a bit of a shadow over rabo now for the tour? Surely they are the ones with Pie on their face for letting him start in the first place?
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  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    Like ex-PDM and ONCE rider Erik Breukink?

    I feel sorry for Rabobank, the bank. They support cycling at many levels in Holland, the pro team is just the top of the pyramid. But they seem unable to ask questions of the pro team management, starstruck or naive perhaps. They need to ask "have we got the best guys running the cycling team".
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Rabobank are a bank and are in the risk business.

    They know exactly what they're playing with in pro cycling.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • LangerDan
    LangerDan Posts: 6,132
    Doobz wrote:
    wow 700.000 is better then a kick in the bollocks -

    Is this going to cast a bit of a shadow over rabo now for the tour? Surely they are the ones with Pie on their face for letting him start in the first place?


    Won't make a difference - the Courts have said that Rabo were justified in sacking Ras. Its the way they sacked him that has led to the fine.


    Rabobank to pay Rasmussen €700,000
    Wednesday 02 July 2008

    The Rabobank cycling team was within its rights when it sacked Danish cyclist Michael Rasmussen last summer, but should not have sacked him on the spot and must therefore pay him €700,000 compensation, a Utrecht court ruled on Wednesday.

    Rasmussen was sacked in the final stages of the Tour de France for lying about his whereabouts during training sessions. He had demanded damages of €5.5m.
    'This week I 'ave been mostly been climbing like Basso - Shirley Basso.'
  • feersumendjinn
    feersumendjinn Posts: 148
    Robobank i doubt are naive or fail to ask questions, maybe they ask the wrong ones. As with a lot of sponsors they will balance out income generated by the team versus cost of damage limitation when stuff goes toes up €700.000 is probably a small percentage of that income
  • donrhummy
    donrhummy Posts: 2,329
    I don't agree with the judge. He found that the team knew about Rasmussen's wherabouts and did not stop him from lying (really they participated in the lie) yet they're justified in firing him for lying?! That's just stupid. It seems to me that if an organization knows about an employee's decision to lie and they support it, then it's an organizational lie, not an individual one.
  • wasp707
    wasp707 Posts: 116
    Perhaps ASO will withdraw Rabobanks invite to Le Tour and give Astana a last minute call-up! :D
  • Mar ge
    Mar ge Posts: 88
    and Rasmussen is back in the news once more.

    It doesn't get much stranger :shock:

    Apparently last weekend he rode (as an intruder) in the Danish womens championship race for an hour as a protest against the Danish federation....

    http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/952/Wielrennen/article/detail/336607/2008/07/04/Michael-Rasmussen-koerst-tussen-vrouwen.dhtml

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