Forum demonisation of Lawyers.

dondare
dondare Posts: 2,113
edited July 2008 in Commuting chat
Got to it, lads.
This post contains traces of nuts.

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  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    Lawers?????

    Dennis Noward
  • dondare
    dondare Posts: 2,113
    Fixed.
    This post contains traces of nuts.
  • Surf-Matt
    Surf-Matt Posts: 5,952
    I climb Ben Lawers once next to Loch Tay.

    In fact, this is it:

    lawers.jpg

    It was rather chilly.
  • Sea_Green_Incorruptible
    Sea_Green_Incorruptible Posts: 431
    Er.... eh?
  • Surf-Matt
    Surf-Matt Posts: 5,952
    Don wrote the title as "Lawers" rather than "Lawyers" - lame "joke" really.
  • Sea_Green_Incorruptible
    Sea_Green_Incorruptible Posts: 431
    No... I get that. I mean why are we all meant to be demonising lawyers on this forum?
  • always_tyred
    always_tyred Posts: 4,965
    Lawers - awesome place to ride a bike. A couple of 1500ft climbs, fantastic scenery, no one in England knows how to get there....bugger.
  • always_tyred
    always_tyred Posts: 4,965
    Btw - I have nothing against lawyers, given that I have worked and do work with some very good ones. Some of them have excellent senses of humour, even about themselves.

    Persons of any persuasion attempting to urinate up a wall to an unnecessary height, however, can be objectionable.

    Its no different to some geeky scientist with a geeky sciency avatar (there is a prize for identifiying it - :oops:) jumping on anyone who said something scientifically imprecise.

    For example, one must always distinguish between precision and accuracy, huh, huh, huh.
  • richardast
    richardast Posts: 273
    Always Tyred wrote:
    Its no different to some geeky scientist with a geeky sciency avatar (there is a prize for identifiying it - :oops:)
    Is it by any chance something not quite 100% legal?
  • Gavin Gilbert
    Gavin Gilbert Posts: 4,019
    Always Tyred wrote:
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    Persons of any persuasion attempting to urinate up a wall to an unnecessary height, however, can be objectionable.

    Its no different to some geeky scientist with a geeky sciency avatar (there is a prize for identifiying it - :oops:) jumping on anyone who said something scientifically imprecise.

    For example, one must always distinguish between precision and accuracy, huh, huh, huh.

    I'm quite sure the gentleman in question can defend himself; however;

    99% of what is typed on this forum is complete borrocks. In many cases, this doesn't matter - it's just flim flam in the ether and in a couple of weeks it fades to nothing with no consequences.

    Other times it does matter and This Forum and Real Life cross paths. I've seen some awful technical advice being given for instance. Then there is the legal aspects.

    Now I'm a frequent user of Legal Services. I have a County Court case on the go at the moment. I have settled 3 other cases in the past 5 years. The thing this has taught me is that whilst the purpose of a lawyer is to argue, it is an arguement structured with the truth, and within logic (lawyers call it 'being reasonable').

    Where the problem lays is that many here seem content to shoot from the lip without bothering to check if facts are correct. Using the 'Cycling on the Pavement Act' to bolster an arguement for instance.

    Law does actually matter. It's the one defining thing of civilisation. No human interaction other than sex can take place without it (and even that is regulated). The abuse of law is one of the great evils of the world. Iraq war anyone? With a side-order of Mugabe?

    Now let's not pretend that either of those 2 examples compare with some Mr Angry posting here that a motorist who kills as the result of an accident is a 'murderer'. But at best it shows a lack of insight, and at worst a lack of respect for the rules that govern all our freedoms.

    So I would argue that precision does matter. And ll it takes is a little though and maybe some research before committing your keystrokes.
  • always_tyred
    always_tyred Posts: 4,965
    Case in point really.

    Not demonising lawyers. Clear on that point. Mere coincidence of demonisation and profession in a particular instance.

    Demonising a certain attitude. Said attitude is profession independent, but largely restricted to males.

    (Not, substance in question is not illegal)
    (If lawyers defend civilisation, science creates it - I not going to justify tht one, just shooting from lip)
    (Society in general does demonise lawyers, largely due to the perception that the law is black and white, which it isn't, not lending itself to straight answers, such that law costs more than a black and white issue really ought, and takes rather longer. Its about as fair as demonisation of cyclists really.)
  • dirk_van_gently
    dirk_van_gently Posts: 826
    A line from Frasier the TV show,
    Niles Crane (Psychiatrist) "Lawyers make such excellent patients, they have excellent medical insurance, and they never get better" :D
    If you see the candle as flame, the meal is already cooked.
    Photography, Google Earth, Route 30
  • saveswalking
    saveswalking Posts: 144
    so can any law person explain the difference between minuscule and minute ?

    sw
  • cee
    cee Posts: 4,553
    edited July 2008
    saveswalking wrote:
    so can any law person explain the difference between minuscule and minute ?

    sw

    im no lawyer but surely one is a unit of time, whilst the other is an estimation of relative size :lol::lol::lol::wink:

    But wait........do you mean the noun minuscule or the adjective? aaargh. the grammar has got me again. I hate the internet! :lol:




    *please notice my smiley and wink before comments are typed
    Whenever I see an adult on a bicycle, I believe in the future of the human race.

    H.G. Wells.
  • always_tyred
    always_tyred Posts: 4,965
    A minuscule (note spelling) is a lower case letter,

    whereas

    A minute is a unit of time equal to one sixtieth of an hour.

    :D
  • saveswalking
    saveswalking Posts: 144
    not sure about minuscule but minute lives in my pond with my plants and my frog...

    :oops: sw
  • gtvlusso
    gtvlusso Posts: 5,112
    Are we talking Lawyers or measurements?

    I am married to a lawyer (copyright and stuff law), so I guess I am cool with it and my previous girlfriend is NYC and California barr - works in Cambridge. So in all reality, I am really okay with it...most of our friends are lawyers, Farrahs, Osbourns, Clintons and various other firms in Laaandan.....lovely people.

    I get annoyed when people spout on about it or hunt forums and give their lawyerly advice though....And that some lawyers have no concept commerciality or real life, it ain't that accurate and people don't read stuff!

    Otherwise, some of the most intelligent, beautiful and sociable people I have met....
  • cee
    cee Posts: 4,553
    Always Tyred wrote:
    Btw - I have nothing against lawyers, given that I have worked and do work with some very good ones. Some of them have excellent senses of humour, even about themselves.

    Persons of any persuasion attempting to urinate up a wall to an unnecessary height, however, can be objectionable.

    Its no different to some geeky scientist with a geeky sciency avatar (there is a prize for identifiying it - :oops:) jumping on anyone who said something scientifically imprecise.

    For example, one must always distinguish between precision and accuracy, huh, huh, huh.

    whats the prize..... I think I know what it is...
    Whenever I see an adult on a bicycle, I believe in the future of the human race.

    H.G. Wells.
  • always_tyred
    always_tyred Posts: 4,965
    Sh1t, I hadn't thought about the prize. And you live in Edinburgh so I'm in real trouble.

    The price is..... a pat on the back.

    What is it?
  • always_tyred
    always_tyred Posts: 4,965
    :!: We have a winner, ladies and genltespoons.:!:

    Cee has correctly identified my avatar as [*******] (Its a secret, but he did get it right)

    I'm impressed.

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