Best D-Lock money can buy (Within reason)?

supermonkey

Hi,

I'm looking for a super tough D-Lock and am willing to spend a bit of cash although not stupid amounts. Options I'm considering are:

http://www.kryptonitelock.com/Products/ ... 0&pid=1096
http://www.kryptonitelock.com/Products/ ... 0&pid=1097
http://www.abus.de/us/main.asp?ScreenLa ... 3318229756

Any opinions on those? Are there any better options that don't cost over £100?

Cheers

nicklouse

what does your insurance say you need?

supermonkey

That would be my next port of call. Bike cost £1600. But the lock may also be used to secure my GF's (£350) at the same time as mine. I'm more concerned with preventing them getting nicked in the first place than insurance though. Any opinion on the locks?

nicklouse

well first thing is to check what the insurance says is OK, as if the lock you get is not approved then no insurance.

sorry not the way round you want to do it but it is the only way to make sure you have cover.

Now lets say you have no insurance then i would get one of the Kryptonte ones. (the ones you link to are the same but for the depth).

I would prefer a chain.

supermonkey

Any reason Kryptonte rather than Abus?

nicklouse

nope.

other than Kryptonite had a major embarrassment a few years back and should have done more than others to sort it.

google Bic pens and kryptonite locks.

GibboGT

Kryptonite new york is down to £45 from £60 at evans, although that is the shorter version and so may not work for 2 bikes.

http://www.evanscycles.com/product.jsp?style=11061

supermonkey

Thanks guys. So the general consensus is Kryptonite?

Does anyone know the difference between the New York M18:

http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/product.asp? ... rc=froogle

The New York 3000:

http://www.parker-international.co.uk/P ... egoryID/76

And the standard New York as per the Kryptonite site:

http://www.kryptonitelock.com/Products/ ... 0&pid=1096

The Kryptonite site says that the latter is their flagship lock. Are the others just previous versions of the same lock or something different?

Cheers

Surf-Matt

My Abus Granite works very well, althougn sadly does not actually have a single ounce of granite on the entire thing. Just some rather fake looking carbon effect. Would have looked pretty.

Larok

Would it be easier to get another bike for locking up outside the house?

supermonkey

Not really. Just want a lock for locking up the bike I've got. :roll:

Anyone know the difference between the the Kryptonite locks I posted above? Or have an opinion on Abus vs Kryptonite?

danslesud

As Nicklouse said earlier on: If I were you, I would be looking more at a filthy great chain and decent padlock combination rather than or as well as a D-lock.
I have two bikes in a communal garage locked with a chain up to an anchor point on the wall, works a treat and, by gum, have they tried to do away with our babies!

Chris`I

Where are you planning on locking it up? If in a garage, as the others have suggested, I would go for a wall/ground anchor and a chain. Much better than a D-Lock. If you out and about, then either of those would be good enough, see which your insurance recommends as if they get through it thats who you'll be calling!

supermonkey

Cheers guys. I know you're all just trying to help but can we assume just for the sake of argument that:

I'm not going to insure the bike
I don't want to buy a new bike and want to lock up the one I've got
And I do actually want a D-Lock and not a chain

Does anyone have any opinions on Abus vs Kryptonite? Or what the difference is between the 3 locks I posted?

Just for info purposes: I'll be using it to lock the bike up inside at work sometimes. Maybe outside a shop or 2. Maybe outside a restaurant or pub. And possible other uses. The bike won't be left over night and will only be left unattended outside for minimal amounts of time. That said I do still want the best lock I can afford, which is easy to carry (hence no chain).

Cheers

wingnutLP

Sorry to resurrect this but as far as I can see everything out there is potentially unsafe.

Chains are stupidly heavy and apparently fairly easy to cut with bolt crops, dolocks are also suceptible to bolt crops and cable lockas are also meant to be easy to cut with the correct tools.

Bike radar seems to have a test system but elswhere they show the same product being demolished in seconds eg the £125 chain by granite is given a high rating here:http://www.bikeradar.com/mtb/gear/category/accessories/locks/product/new-york-fahgettaboudit-chain-16522
But third lock in on this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ip5QoMFyi0You tube clip for an ITV program shows it being cut with bolt crops!
People recommend chains but then this chain manufacturer http://www.almax-security-chains.co.uk/index.asp?pg=7 claims that almost all chanis can be cropped in secconds. Obviously stuff on manufacturers sites needs tb be taken with a pinch of salt of course.

So what do people recommend for:

1 Securing a bike when out and about in a public place that isn't a crime hotspot and is reasonably well populated.

2 Securing a bike in a communal garage.

I need to be able to do both

delcol

i have several abus locks. both chain and d locks.

i also have 3 almax ones i have to say the abus ones dont compair to the almax ones those almax ones kick ass,.. like mentioned above can you take their clams seariously as they manufactuer their own locks,.. but i will say they are amazing quality and well worth the money,..

warning i would not want to carry one around with me to the shops pub work or were ever you need to chain your bike while in public,. but if you need added security for your bike at home ect then they are definatly worth a look.....