Fork buying advice needed. Rockshox revelation?

rookiebiker11
rookiebiker11 Posts: 22
edited June 2008 in MTB buying advice
Hi I am currently riding a giant yukon 2006 with suntour xcr forks and qr wheels. I am looking to replace my forks with something versatile, it has to be able to stand up to trail riding, extreme xc, freeride, a bit of Dirt jumping and the odd foray into DH. My budget is £270 for fork(and wheel if required).
I have been looking at the rockshox revelation 426, has anyone owned one? any advice would be very helpful or comments on choice. thanks
Jake

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  • artillerydave
    artillerydave Posts: 715
    the revelation is a gret set of forks and very versitile they are however not dirt jump or downhill forks by any margin. you do not really get many forks that are great at every discipline across the board, there are always compromises ie great trail forks are not good for dirt jumping as dirt jumping forks are pants at trail riding. the revelation falls into the former category.
  • rookiebiker11
    rookiebiker11 Posts: 22
    ahh right but could i get away with abit of light downhill and not wreck them
    i just dont want to break them?
  • rookiebiker11
    rookiebiker11 Posts: 22
    how about fx 32 van's i think i can stretch my budget to those. recomendations would be helpful
  • xtreem
    xtreem Posts: 2,965
    Depends what do you mean by Downhill. If you ride just fast over rocks, roots,
    than that's an agressive XC I think. Small jumps 3ft will be ok, but if you are planing
    of doing 6ft jumps than I don't know they'll survive.
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  • stubs
    stubs Posts: 5,001
    I think the revelations should be a lot tougher than the suntour forks but really for downhill and jumping you want to be looking for a bolt through fork I have got a set of 2007 pike coil u-turns on my saracen zen I have seen them going for around £270 to £300 though you will have to get a suitable hub and get your wheel rebuilt which going by my experience will set you back another £50 so you are looking at up to about £350 total I am afraid
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  • artillerydave
    artillerydave Posts: 715
    of the two I would take the revelations over the foxes, fox Vanillas are good forks but the revelations are more adjustable and user friendly on my opinion, always do well in reviews too.
  • Splasher
    Splasher Posts: 1,528
    The 2006 Yukon came with a 75mm fork and a Revelation is a 130mm fork. Bikes can take a bit of geometry alteration but this much would be unrideable. A 32 Van would be even worse. Plus the additional leverage at the head-tube would probably lead to premature frame failure.

    Terms like DH and Dirt Jumping are pretty meaningless unless you give some examples since one man's 2ft drop is another's 12ft drop.

    Give us some examples of the stuff your going to do and where about and we can make better recommendations.
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  • rookiebiker11
    rookiebiker11 Posts: 22
    HEHE thanks guys
    to clear thing up !i have no idea whether my bike is 07 or 06 i cant find it on new all i know is fork is DEFINETLEY 100mm travel!
    and when i say DJ im talking 6 ft high jumps MAX and DH i will hit 6ft drops or so MAX so nothing drastic (my suntours havent broken yet ive had no problems)
    my mate seems to think i can get away with 130mm
    and if i buy a new wheel itll shrink my budget fork fork to about 200£ thanks all
    jake
  • Splasher
    Splasher Posts: 1,528
    So wouldn't a 100mm dirt jump fork be more suitable? http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Mode ... elID=21570
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  • rookiebiker11
    rookiebiker11 Posts: 22
    could i use this fork for trails too? as im off to coed'y'brenin soon , and i thought long travel would be better for DH etc?
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    rookiebiker11 wrote:
    could i use this fork for trails too? as im off to coed'y'brenin soon ,
    yes but it may be a bit harsh.
    and i thought long travel would be better for DH etc?
    not if your bike cant take it.

    the DJ forks or an Argyle are about the only suitable forks for what you are thinking of doing,

    But your bike is not really suitable.
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  • Splasher
    Splasher Posts: 1,528
    You can use this for trails no problem.

    You are correct that 130mm travel would be better for DH than 100mm but the DJ would be better for DJing and general trail riding because it suits the geometry of the bike. And for DHing it is stronger than the Revelation which is really a long travel XC fork.
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  • dave_hill
    dave_hill Posts: 3,877
    nicklouse wrote:
    Argyle are about the only suitable forks for what you are thinking of doing

    I was thinking along the same lines. The Argyle range get a good press as a versatile high-duty fork.

    That said, I'd be looking at your frame and your other components. From what you say you want to be doing, you'll wreck a Yukon in no time, they just aren't built to take the sort of abuse that you are planning (or think you are planning) to dish out.

    To be honest, I'd save my pennies a bit longer and look at getting a bike which is more dedicated to the task. You can get a Giant STP for not much more than what a set of forks costs.
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  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    6ft drops on a Yukon? (an entry level XC bike!). You need a new bike, you will kill this one!
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  • rookiebiker11
    rookiebiker11 Posts: 22
    i HAVE killed this one in 1 week : 1 broken spoke 6 seperate punctures, bashguard replaced, outer chainring bent and i have reduced 24 working gears to 6 hehe.
    Ok this is why i dont buy a bike: parents: my mum went mad when i wanted to replace my bike so i said okok just the forks and she was ok with it.... im goiung to replace it all, bit by bit : Fork and front wheel first, back wheel/ cassette's, frame, cranks,
  • rookiebiker11
    rookiebiker11 Posts: 22
    can anyone find a cheap wheel? factory or custom i want to pay as little as possible, 20mm axle please and 26" i cant find anything good or send me a link please, also can i get a link to the manitou website i cant find it
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    so what is your budget for this wheel and fork?

    manipo link in the tech links sticky.
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  • rookiebiker11
    rookiebiker11 Posts: 22
    budget is ABOUT 270 give or take abit for wheel and fork
  • xtreem
    xtreem Posts: 2,965
    Then go Argyle 302, around 200£, and with the rest, some wheel(sorry I don't have a suggestion).
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  • rookiebiker11
    rookiebiker11 Posts: 22
    is it worth stretching my budget abit to 300 or so to get argyle 318's?
  • BlackSpur
    BlackSpur Posts: 4,228
    Only if weight is an issue or you want more adjustability.
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  • BlackSpur
    BlackSpur Posts: 4,228
    Oh and if your mum won't let you get a new bike show her this thread. The bike will most likely break if you do larhe jumps, the back wheel will die (so will the front if you don't replace it). The frame could well crack/snap. The bars could well snap. There is a high risk of you injuring yourself doing things which the bike isn't designed for, and you will not have a leg to stand on with warranty/compensation etc.
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  • Splasher
    Splasher Posts: 1,528
    When you say, your mum went mad, is that what you mean or do you mean, "my mum refused to finance it"?
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  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    I think I'd get a BMX for the money.
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  • xtreem
    xtreem Posts: 2,965
    Why don't you buy some, let's say 350£ jump bike.
    You won't get Argyles for that money but you'll get
    some strong frame that you can upgrade it in future.
    Sell your old one. That's my final advice. :)
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  • RussAlf
    RussAlf Posts: 706
    The amount your planning on spending on a fork is more than the bike is worth. I would personally save the money you plan on spending on the fork and keep saving untill you can afford to buy a bike fit for the purpose, you can pick some excellent second hand bikes up cheap.

    In the mean time just keep on abusing the yukon until it fails.

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