Water on the knee

ThanksBye
ThanksBye Posts: 519
Been having knee pain, went to docs and found got fluid build up on knee, when cycling the downs link today found it painfull, wat can i do to relive pain?
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  • Pippen33
    Pippen33 Posts: 235
    Unless you've had traumatic injury to that knee, for example, a torn ligament, you may have arthiritis. NOT GOOD.

    EDIT: Did doc say anything specific or do anything?
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  • ThanksBye
    ThanksBye Posts: 519
    No, but im booked into phyiso, can u get arthistus at 16? nope just had a bad fall few months back
    Cotic Soul
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    Actually, you can have arthritis at 16. It's fairly rare, but it does happen.
  • ThanksBye
    ThanksBye Posts: 519
    Well the Doc didnt meantion arthtius so i dont think it is that
    Cotic Soul
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    Well, it almost certainly isn't Arthritis, but I was just filling you in on the fact that it's possible at 16.
  • ThanksBye
    ThanksBye Posts: 519
    Phew thanks
    Cotic Soul
    Pearson Hanzo
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    Don't bother with the pysio it pants , if you give yourself Ibupropehn for a while its an antiinflametery and should get it sorted in a few days , but if it carries on go to your A&E see if they'll drain it for you , they just wack in a needle and draw off the fluid . Try and keep you leg up and massarge from your knee to your thigh . I've had this problem for over 22 years after a bad scooter crash and it works for me.
  • NikB
    NikB Posts: 243
    jacks2ts wrote:
    Don't bother with the pysio it pants , if you give yourself Ibupropehn for a while its an antiinflametery and should get it sorted in a few days , but if it carries on go to your A&E see if they'll drain it for you , they just wack in a needle and draw off the fluid . Try and keep you leg up and massarge from your knee to your thigh . I've had this problem for over 22 years after a bad scooter crash and it works for me.

    And because you've had that condition for 22 years means you're qualified to tell him not to go to a physio? The fact that you've had a condition that long means something is wrong that should be investigated and treated properly, not just sticking with anti inflammatories.
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    I'm not disssing physio to that extent but when keen damage is done it is very difficult to rectify with this form of treatment. Ibruprofen works buy reducing fluid build up and massage helps to move the fluid back into the main part of the body. the reason i've had this trouble is that i have a plate & 26 screws holding my right thigh together .my leg was broken in 5 places including my kneecap and it was rebuilt by one of the top orthopedic serguons in the country and he told me to use physio to get me walking again but the best way to keep the knee in good working order was to cycle which i did . In 22 years i have had to have my keen drained 4 times with one of them being a septic one.,all these where work related .Ihave kept up my cycling including XC/DH Endurance racing for the whole time,P.S. Take a look on other tread to see all the other cyclist's that had physio recomended and see what they have said most give it a bad reveiw and have paid out a lot of cash for very little benifit
  • lunaeventer
    lunaeventer Posts: 420
    Just because physio was not the answer to your knee problems, jacks2ts, doesn't mean physio will not help someone else!! Sounds like the two scenarios could be completly different too, since you also had severe fractures & surgery.

    Good physio advice may be all that is required to help solve a hopefully minor problem in a much younger guy (sorry, to bring age into it!! :wink: ). Ibuprofen may be an anti-inflammatory but could mask the symptoms rather than help solve an underlying problem. Go see the physio! :)
  • Bikerbaboon
    Bikerbaboon Posts: 1,017
    i went to phisio last week as my sholder blade does not meet my collarbone after a motorbike crash. things i managed to get are......

    My bike handle bars sorted to remove the pins and needles that i feel after riding
    my bike cleats sorted so my foot that i broke 1 yearago no longer ache on the down hills
    a new rideing buddy
    new routes
    some exersizes for my sholder.

    not bad for a free trip. :wink:
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  • NikB
    NikB Posts: 243
    Jack an intra articular fracture is always going to carry a guarded prognosis because the joint is exposed to underlying bone which causes inflammation and can be destructive. This can lead to arthritic change even with accurate surgery which is why you've had ongoing problems. It is not the same as this condition here.
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    NikB i understand it is not the same condition but antinflamitery drugs will reduse fluid and it may be there is another problem , but if his doctor recommended physio straight away without the likes of a x-ray removing fluid first would be the first thing to do to see if there was any underling problem . It would reduce pressure around the knee and releive any pain at the same time. In my opinion i would seek a 2nd opinion as if there was the likes of a chipped bone or infection in the knee physio wouldn't be a good treatment to start of with.
    I NikB with your medical lingo do you happen to have a medical back ground or even work in a hospital ?
  • NikB
    NikB Posts: 243
    Jack I'm a veterinary orthopaedic surgeon, hence the lingo. The terms and basic principles are the same as in human surgery, there are some anatomical differences and so on but we're much the same.
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    NikB wrote:
    there are some anatomical differences
    Don't be daft. No there isn't. :lol:
  • NikB
    NikB Posts: 243
    Lol, you know what I mean! Basic bone structure is much the same, it's just a few knobbly bits here and there that differ. The rest of it boils down to size and being biped vs quadriped which alters some angles etc.
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    You're a biped? cool. I always wanted to try the whole two-legged thing. I don't have the balance to stay up on my hind legs for long though.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    Does that mean your one of the monkeys from the PG tip's advert from years ago that road in the Tour de France " AVA VOU UN CUPPA" :lol:
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    haha! I'd forgotten about the monkeys!
  • hi sorry to disapoint you but it could well be athritis as i had pain in my knee 4 years ago and the knee started to swell up realy bad. one operation later 3 specialists later i'm now seeing a rhumatologist ive got rhumatiod athritis in both knees and my left hand i have them drained every 2 months !! and yes sorry to be the bairer of more bad news but it can happen to any age even babys . if it is athritis they will probably give you anti inflamotories to start off with and see how you get on if it carries on it will be stronger drugs and blood monitering every month. i can still ride my bike now but struggle to walk properly. i hope for your sake it turns out to be ligament damage or other minor damage as that curable. good luck

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