Barake Blocks for Carbon Rims

kett
kett Posts: 56
edited June 2008 in Workshop
Hi
Having some trouble with a very 'grabby' front brake on a new set of carbon rims, and a not so grabby rear but squealing rear, any tips on best blocks for carbon rims and any that can be used for alu also?

cheers

Comments

  • celbianchi
    celbianchi Posts: 854
    Swiss Stop yellow fulfill all your requirements..

    I use them and have for a year or so now having tried different carbon pads.

    Nothing to match them in my opinion. They are not as good on aluminium rims as they are on carbon but they are plenty good enough on aluminium.
  • APIII
    APIII Posts: 2,010
    +1 for Swiss Stop Yellow.
  • mr-ed
    mr-ed Posts: 130
    Do you have to clean/ brush the pads off after using them on alu rims when going back to carbon in case they've picked up bits off the rim? I've never wanted to risk using the same pads as I thought there was an issue there.
  • James_London
    James_London Posts: 530
    SwissStop yellow work very well. Toe them in a bit to reduce squeal

    DON'T use alloy and carbon rims with the same pads. However careful you are you're likely to damage the carbon with embedded shards of aluminium and, as has been said, the yelllows aren't brilliant on alloy rims anyway.

    Braking performance will change a little as the carbon rims and pads wear in too (and you get used to carbon braking/ those particular rims). They may also squeal less after a few hundred km.
  • chriskempton
    chriskempton Posts: 1,245
    +1 for Swiss Stop yellow. I use them on both carbon and alu rims and find the performance perfectly good on alu - even on big descents in the wet in Yorks dales. If you're swapping wheels all the time like I am I don't think it's worth changing brake shoes all the time and I don't think it's necessary. Agree they do need checking for bits of alu though, especially if you're using old alu rims or after wet rides.
  • celbianchi
    celbianchi Posts: 854
    SwissStop yellow work very well. Toe them in a bit to reduce squeal

    DON'T use alloy and carbon rims with the same pads. However careful you are you're likely to damage the carbon with embedded shards of aluminium and, as has been said, the yelllows aren't brilliant on alloy rims anyway.

    Braking performance will change a little as the carbon rims and pads wear in too (and you get used to carbon braking/ those particular rims). They may also squeal less after a few hundred km.

    I swap the wheels leaving the same pads. Not had any problems at all. It's a key pitch of swiss stop that you can forget about having to change the pads.

    See below


    The Yellow King compound provides the ultimate stopping power (wet and dry) and allows the rider to precisely modulate braking on carbon wheels. It is Available for Shimano and Campagnolo 10 speed systems.
    Many riders know the all or nothing feeling of cork-based brake pads. The Yellow King unlike many other carbon brake pads, are not made of _a cork mixture, but rather a high performance rubber compound that has been proven to operate quietly, without squealing, excessive wear, slip or grab in all conditions.
    The fantastic performance of the Yellow King compound on aluminium rims also enables you to change wheels between carbon and aluminium, for the first time, without changing the brake pads and still maintain high performance braking.
    While the Yellow King pads do not achieve the same performance on aluminium as the carbon surfaces they were designed for, they far exceed their cork-based counterparts, and are clearly superior to cork based compounds in the ability to modulate braking power.
    The performance of this unique compound far exceeds that of conventional carbon specific brake pads, with operating temperatures as low as - 20C to in excess of 300C! (Short duration)
  • Monty Dog
    Monty Dog Posts: 20,614
    Dressing the pad with a file when swapping from aluminium to carbon is useful to remove any embedded shards. In most cases, you need to adjust the pad height too between different wheels.
    Make mine an Italian, with Campagnolo on the side..