1977 Claud Butler Competitor

GaryGkn
GaryGkn Posts: 1,199
edited July 2008 in Road general
I missed one of these on the dreaded bay recently.
Does anyone know anything about them?
I want one because they don't have a gear hanger, they are 531, geometry 73 degrees square would suit me and because they don't have many braze ons, I can convert to fixed quite easily and convert back to gear if I want.

Does anyone know other frames of this quality with the same attributes?

Much appreciated Gary

Comments

  • meagain
    meagain Posts: 2,331
    What size? There's a 531 Butted throughout Carlton sat about 6' from me - and I could easily cut off the hanger!
    d.j.
    "Cancel my subscription to the resurrection."
  • GaryGkn
    GaryGkn Posts: 1,199
    23"

    Corsair?
  • meagain
    meagain Posts: 2,331
    Neither. 22" and "don't know". Sorry!
    d.j.
    "Cancel my subscription to the resurrection."
  • 4candles
    4candles Posts: 240
    edited July 2008
    GaryGkn wrote:
    23"

    Corsair?

    i have one that i want to sell on... just been rebuilt with Suntour / SR stuff has sealed Suntour hubs too 12spd. email me and i'll send on pics.
  • GaryGkn
    GaryGkn Posts: 1,199
    I bought a CB Competitor but at 59cm CC and not CT it is too big it has a good turn of speed and is very stable but I've got to get rid of it. It may leave an opening in the overcrowded stable? I will mail you.
  • Pullman1937
    Pullman1937 Posts: 101
    Re Claud Butler. If 1970s frame and no braze ons or gear hanger ,chances are this was the bottom end of the range frame and will probably 531 plain gauge tubing.

    The only problem running fixed with forward facing dropouts is that the tension on the chain when riding the bike is likely to pull the rear wheel over against the left chainstay if the locknuts and hub axle are not sufficiently robust enough to hold the wheel in place when tightened. It used to be a particular problem with the old Normandy hubs.

    This was why road path frames/track frames had rear facing dropouts. A strong rider can pull the wheel even when locknuts are tight.