For the bin/skip?

Lagavulin
Lagavulin Posts: 1,688
edited June 2008 in Road general
Should this be included on our next trip to the dump?

My dad's old Flying Scot. Just dug it out from the back of the garage. It's in a hell of a state.

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  • peejay78
    peejay78 Posts: 3,378
    frame looks more than fine, in fact, get rid of the nasty bits and this frame is ready to ride.

    could do with shot blast, powder coat.

    these can go for a lot of money.

    it also has gb bars and stem. i saw the same combo go for £147 the other dya.
  • FCE2007
    FCE2007 Posts: 925
    aaah, Simplex gears.
    Takes me back to childhood days with my Puch Clubleader 10 speed.
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  • Lagavulin
    Lagavulin Posts: 1,688
    Really? I imagined the responses would've been it's dead.

    I might look into restoring it then. Funds are a bit short at the moment - just splashed out on an Centaur-equipped Izoard - but I suppose it can be a project. Dad is still kicking around so I'll get him to chip in too. His memory is not what it was but he may still know his old bike inside out.

    Sorry for all the questions but how much of it do you think can be kept? Are replacement parts expensive? Can you even get a rear wheel to fit whatever the rear spacing is on these things?
  • meagain
    meagain Posts: 2,331
    "frame looks more than fine, in fact, get rid of the nasty bits and this frame is ready to ride. "

    Not possessing X-ray vision I have no opinion on whether or not it is "fine" nor even safe. Might be, might not. Ceratinly worth checking (as best as you can). Strip out b/b (if it's seized a good clue!) and seat post. Worst rust trap usually seat tube above b/b shell and the chain stays about where the tyre would rub. Can probably get your fingers into those internals - and flood (down seat tube) with oil/WD40 and see what comes out. Where down and top tubes abut head tube also worth a look.

    Just that I've seen two frames quite expensively re-enamelled etc by quite a well-known "shop" that on examination I cut up (so that no one would use it!) and skipped! One was rusted away in the stays and the other was completely out of alignment - a bodged rear end stretch.

    If just stays shot, then can get new ones fitted but unless sentimental value not a worthwhile spend IMO.
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  • pneumatic
    pneumatic Posts: 1,989
    A mate of mine has two of these, lovingly restored. Everybody admires them out on the road. One of them recently succumbed to a stripped BB thread and has been retired. The other toured 2500 km, fully laden across Europe.


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  • peejay78
    peejay78 Posts: 3,378
    you can get threadless BBs these days.

    i agree with meagain. however, it really doesn't look all that bad.

    with regard to rear wheels, very easy to get them made to order.
  • jpembroke
    jpembroke Posts: 2,569
    There's a fixie in there screaming to get out
    I'm only concerned with looking concerned
  • bagpusscp
    bagpusscp Posts: 2,907
    edited June 2008
    Do Not Powder Coat .It will ruin a Classic Frame Set. Go for enamel.I can get a frame shot blasted ,primed ,1 coat of enamel low bake . for £50. Limited for colours. Two colour finish £60.Enamel Paint is not a stock item . Turn round 5 weeks . No transfers or lacquer included.

    Here is a CB I saved.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/74418119@N ... 456892668/
    bagpuss
  • NervexProf
    NervexProf Posts: 4,202
    Agree with others who urge 'preserve' - don't let this rare Caledononian classic disappear - they don't make them like this anymore; i.e handcrafted.

    Bagpuss has it right too - NO powdercoat. Strip components, get it shotblast then take an audit on the corrosion condition, notably in the bottom bracket area.

    A little time, patience and consulting with Dad could make this a very worthwhile restoration project.
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  • y tin
    y tin Posts: 102
    Jeez. It's scrap. Put it in the bin. Move on.
    Or stick it on ebay with a starting bid of £0.50, collection only. And get all the above posters to bid for it. :wink:
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  • meagain
    meagain Posts: 2,331
    "they don't make them like this anymore"

    For which there may of course be very good reasons!
    d.j.
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  • bagpusscp
    bagpusscp Posts: 2,907
    meagain wrote:
    "they don't make them like this anymore"

    For which there may of course be very good reasons!

    Indeed Dave ,you are one of a kind .30 all :)
    bagpuss
  • Dickie
    Dickie Posts: 1,489
    It looks fine to me. Elegant lugs and an easy restoration. I would happily buy it as is, it wiil make a nice bike. Don't bin it give it to me :D
  • peejay78
    peejay78 Posts: 3,378
    list it properly on ebay at it will go for quids, in current condition.
  • Pete Beer
    Pete Beer Posts: 604
    Donate it to Dickie and prepare to be amazed........................
  • SamWise72
    SamWise72 Posts: 453
    meagain wrote:
    "they don't make them like this anymore"

    For which there may of course be very good reasons!

    They do still make at least frames like this, but not as many. The reasons are cost, and demand, rather than anything else.
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  • meagain
    meagain Posts: 2,331
    I had actually thought that that might be the case..."cost and demand" being what usually decides what comes to the market place!
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  • SamWise72
    SamWise72 Posts: 453
    Hand brazing frames is a long and skilled process. I suspect Carbon Fibre bikes are completely or mostly machine made. Top end frames aren't any cheaper than hand brazed lugged steel, but they are lighter. On the downside, they're less robust, less long-lived, and in my view, less attractive. There are still a good number of British hand-builders, Mercian being one of the best known, but Rotrax, the Southampton maker, for instance, still trades in a small way. There's been quite a rise in demand for boutique steel frames in the States, and if you want to see whether they still "make them like that", look no further than Vanilla Bicycles.....

    http://vanillabicycles.com/
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  • meagain
    meagain Posts: 2,331
    Note to self. From now on only be entirely serious. And never pretend not to know stuff that I do.....
    d.j.
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  • SamWise72
    SamWise72 Posts: 453
    meagain wrote:
    Note to self. From now on only be entirely serious. And never pretend not to know stuff that I do.....

    Note to self. Recalibrate humour metre. Sorry!
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  • bagpusscp
    bagpusscp Posts: 2,907
    Drool time here 8) Click on images,and slobber. :wink:
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  • meagain
    meagain Posts: 2,331
    Beautiful work indeed. I just KNOW I couldn't afford one!
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  • gkerr4
    gkerr4 Posts: 3,408
    even I (hater of all things 'old', 'classic' and especially 'steel') think those vanilla bikes look amazing!

    I particularly like the 'road' frames 'bike1' - which has some sort of ford GT40 paint scheme going on - love the mix of classic looking frames and modern wheels / groupsets - might even consider ordering one - i'll have 5 years to save up for it if the list is correct!!
  • bagpusscp
    bagpusscp Posts: 2,907
    gkerr4 wrote:
    even I (hater of all things 'old', 'classic' and especially 'steel') think those vanilla bikes look amazing!

    I particularly like the 'road' frames 'bike1' - which has some sort of ford GT40 paint scheme going on - love the mix of classic looking frames and modern wheels / groupsets - might even consider ordering one - i'll have 5 years to save up for it if the list is correct!!

    he he...another joins the flock :wink:
    bagpuss
  • gkerr4
    gkerr4 Posts: 3,408
    i wouldn't go that far..