Boonen positive?

iainf72
iainf72 Posts: 15,784
edited June 2008 in Pro race
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id= ... /jun10news

I wonder if being positive for ching is allowed outside of competition?

Perhaps N*E*R*D can remix their new single in his honour.

All the cyclists standing in the line for the bathroom...
Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
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  • pottssteve
    pottssteve Posts: 4,069
    It's appropriate that he rides for Quick Step....

    I suppose it makes the evenings in rural Belgium simply fly by... :wink:
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  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    If you want even more surprising news, apparently he's also in talks with Bouygues Telecom.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    Kléber wrote:
    If you want even more surprising news, apparently he's also in talks with Bouygues Telecom.

    Yep:-
    10/06/2008 07:50
    Cyclisme - Transferts - Boonen vers Bouygues ?
    La rumeur peut surprendre, elle est toutefois en train de devenir une piste sérieuse: Tom Boonen pourrait bien porter les couleurs de Bouygues Telecom la saison prochaine. Selon le journal L'Equipe, c'est même le Blege lui-même qui est entré en contact avec l'équipe française pour 2009, peut-être pour attirer l'attention de son employeur actuel, la Quick Step.

    Après six saisons à la Quick Step et de multiples victoires, le champion du monde 2005 souhaiterait donner une nouvelle orientation à sa carrière, et changer d'air pour s'offrir un nouveau défi. Du côté de Bouygues, on étudie évidemment avec attention cette piste, et la venue de Boonen serait sans conteste un gros coup, tant sportivement que médiatiquement, voire économiquement. Les deux parties sont donc en train de discuter, même si pour l'instant personne ne s'exprime ouvertement sur le sujet.

    L'arrivée de Boonen pose en effet quelques problèmes. Du côté de chez Bouygues, il faudrait déjà lui faire une place, d'abord sur le plan financier (on parle d'un salaire annuel supérieur à 500 000 euros), puis au sein de l'effectif, où la présence d'un tel coureur n'est forcément pas anodine. En 2004, Joseba Beloki n'avait passé que quelques mois chez la formation Brioches-La Boulangère, structure déjà dirigée par Jean-René Bernaudeau, parrainée ensuite par Bouygues Telecom. L'Espagnol, deuxième du Tour de France en 2002, et troisième en 2000 et 2001, n'avait pas réussi à s'intégrer dans une équipe "familiale".

    Et la Quick Step devra accepter de perdre son leader, sa tête d'affiche. Patrick Lefévère, son mentor depuis 2003, ne retiendrait pas son coureur, a priori. Il est surtout occupé à trouver un nouveau sponsor. Le départ d'un très gros salaire peut donc même lui rendre service. Les choses devraient se décanter, dans un sens ou dans l'autre, d'ici le départ du Tour de France, dans moins d'un mois.

    Would also explain the QS/Cav rumours.

    Nice to see old Tom keeping up that Belgian tradition. They are talking dealing, not just sampling. The Lion of Flanders Cartel? I bet VDB's up for it, too.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    Nice to see old Tom keeping up that Belgian tradition. They are talking dealing, not just sampling. The Lion of Flanders Cartel? I bet VDB's up for it, too.[/b]

    Just had a read of the prohibited list and if he has returned a positive for gak he'll probably have to do a ban.

    Unless it was from

    a) Bolivian Sweets
    b) A dentist he used after he time traveled back to the 60's
    c) A contaminated cathater
    d) Cross contamination from a euro-hottie he pulled in a club.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • timoid.
    timoid. Posts: 3,133
    Is it still 2 years for charlie? Or will the sentence be lighter?
    It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired. You quit when the gorilla is tired.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    iainf72 wrote:
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    Nice to see old Tom keeping up that Belgian tradition. They are talking dealing, not just sampling. The Lion of Flanders Cartel? I bet VDB's up for it, too.[/b]

    Just had a read of the prohibited list and if he has returned a positive for gak he'll probably have to do a ban.

    Unless it was from

    a) Bolivian Sweets
    b) A dentist he used after he time traveled back to the 60's
    c) A contaminated cathater
    d) Cross contamination from a euro-hottie he pulled in a club.

    :lol::lol::lol:
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • timoid.
    timoid. Posts: 3,133
    Is this why Lefevre withdrew from the AIGCP? Don't have to sack Mr B now...

    CN yesterday:

    Quick Step withdraws from AIGCP
    The Quick Step team joined in the exodus of teams from the International Association of Professional Cycling Teams (AIGCP). The team's director Patrick Lefevere, who was the president of the AIGCP until last December and is still the president of International Professional Cycling Teams (IPCT), announced the decision.

    "The difference between the professional teams and those of the ProTour is too great. Both the budgets and the standards that the teams must meet are too excessive and difficult to cover," said Lefevere. Quick Step joins Liquigas, Milram, Caisse d' Epargne, Astana and Saunier Duval in leaving the AIGCP.

    Earlier this week, all 20 teams invited to the Tour de France, including 17 ProTour Teams, signed a participation agreement with the organiser Amaury Sports Organisation (ASO). All members of the AIGCP agreed with clauses including a possible fine of 100,000 euro in case of a positive doping test occurring during the three-week Grand Tour
    It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired. You quit when the gorilla is tired.
  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    Well, if the story is true, that's him out of the Tour de France.

    Thor Hushovd must be on cloud nine: No Boonen, Zabel and McEwen's seem too old, Cavendish won't be there, Petacchi's suspended.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Kléber wrote:
    Well, if the story is true, that's him out of the Tour de France.

    Thor Hushovd must be on cloud nine: No Boonen, Zabel and McEwen's seem too old, Cavendish won't be there, Petacchi's suspended.

    Is that for certain now? I thought he might be going for the first week or so.

    Bennati will be there as well, won't he?
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  • timoid.
    timoid. Posts: 3,133
    And Ciolek
    It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired. You quit when the gorilla is tired.
  • CyclingBantam
    CyclingBantam Posts: 1,299
    RichN95 wrote:
    Kléber wrote:
    Well, if the story is true, that's him out of the Tour de France.

    Thor Hushovd must be on cloud nine: No Boonen, Zabel and McEwen's seem too old, Cavendish won't be there, Petacchi's suspended.

    Is that for certain now? I thought he might be going for the first week or so.

    Bennati will be there as well, won't he?

    When did he pull out? I knew originally he intended to miss the Tour but then he seemed to change his mind and be dead set on it. Last I heard after the Giro he was very keen to be included in High Roads team for the Tour?

    I'm confused.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    BenBlyth wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    Kléber wrote:
    Well, if the story is true, that's him out of the Tour de France.

    Thor Hushovd must be on cloud nine: No Boonen, Zabel and McEwen's seem too old, Cavendish won't be there, Petacchi's suspended.

    Is that for certain now? I thought he might be going for the first week or so.

    Bennati will be there as well, won't he?

    When did he pull out? I knew originally he intended to miss the Tour but then he seemed to change his mind and be dead set on it. Last I heard after the Giro he was very keen to be included in High Roads team for the Tour?

    I'm confused.

    I thought he was still intent on going. I'm confused too.
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  • Moomaloid
    Moomaloid Posts: 2,040
    He'll be there. He's in the form of his life and he only has to do one week. His team won't for go sure fire stage wins in the tour....
  • Jez mon
    Jez mon Posts: 3,809
    Yep but the green jersey is Hushovd's for the taking
    You live and learn. At any rate, you live
  • calvjones
    calvjones Posts: 3,850
    Moomaloid wrote:
    He'll be there. He's in the form of his life and he only has to do one week. His team won't for go sure fire stage wins in the tour....


    Dunno. There's only 2 flat ones before the Pyrenees aren't there? The Giro would have been tough on him, and Beijing is looming. I'd take Ciolek & Greipel... As long as I had Cav under contract for 2009! :?:
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  • dave_1
    dave_1 Posts: 9,512
    This shows Boonen's attitude to substances and the rules. I see in cycling weekly website it says he broke the speed limit of 90kph by doing 180kph and was drink driving. Add in the cocaine....Quickstep should fire him
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKBacb2V ... ata_player
  • vermooten
    vermooten Posts: 2,697
    I'd be more impressed if he was on meth - that's a man's drug unlike cocaine which is for pansies.
    You just have to ride like you never have to breathe again.

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  • LangerDan
    LangerDan Posts: 6,132
    Classics wins, cocaine, schoolgirls, Lamborghinis, alcohol, world championships, multi-million euro contracts.....

    Where did it all go wrong?
    'This week I 'ave been mostly been climbing like Basso - Shirley Basso.'
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,549
    He won't get a ban from the UCI as the test was an out of competition test and cocaine is not a prohibited substance out of competition.

    Any truth in the rumour that he'd be snorting it off the skin of a 16 year old girl? :wink:
  • Salsiccia
    Salsiccia Posts: 405
    andyp wrote:
    He won't get a ban from the UCI as the test was an out of competition test and cocaine is not a prohibited substance out of competition.

    Any truth in the rumour that he'd be snorting it off the skin of a 16 year old girl? :wink:

    I'm a bit confused. Who was the testing being carried out on behalf of? It is purely to prevent doping, so as far as the rules go he has done nothing wrong. If so, how was this made public?

    Just as an aside, could Charlie be used as a masking agent? :P
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  • squired
    squired Posts: 1,153
    I wonder if he will try saying it was the first time he'd ever done it, or that he doesn't know how it happened? Or, will he admit to having a problem and do the Hollywood thing, going into rehab?

    Drinking, speeding and drugs... clearly he needs some women so that all four boxes have been ticked!
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,549
    squired wrote:
    Drinking, speeding and drugs... clearly he needs some women so that all four boxes have been ticked!
    So cavorting on a Caribbean beach with a 16 year old doesn't tick that box? :shock:
  • Jeff Jones
    Jeff Jones Posts: 1,865
    He will escape a doping suspension but, depending on how the courts view it, he may end up with a suspended (or real) jail term.

    http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/b ... aine-16930
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  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    Jeff Jones wrote:
    He will escape a doping suspension
    ...but what will Sheriff Prudhomme and the ASO posse have to say?
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Kléber wrote:
    Jeff Jones wrote:
    He will escape a doping suspension
    ...but what will Sheriff Prudhomme and the ASO posse have to say?

    "Rack us up a line Tom"

    ?
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • Salsiccia
    Salsiccia Posts: 405
    Kléber wrote:
    Jeff Jones wrote:
    He will escape a doping suspension
    ...but what will Sheriff Prudhomme and the ASO posse have to say?

    I'm sure they'll come out with some smug tripe about 'not condoning blah blah blah, but that it is out of competition/non-PED' and let him ride
    I was only joking when I said
    by rights you should be bludgeoned in your bed
  • Diesel_engine
    Diesel_engine Posts: 37
    Wasn't Ulle banned for an out of competition test for E?
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    What will Gilberto Simoni have to say? :roll:

    The Italians take a lot of stick for supossedly ignoring doping problems, but it seems they are more vigorous than either the UCI or the Belgian fed.

    He got the boot from the 2002 Giro, sharpish.
    So too, did Ullrich, suspended for his bit of recreational pill popping.

    Here, it seems, we have a Northern version of Piti.

    Somehow, I don't think the ASO will take such a casual attitude.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Is it actually that surprising?

    He's a young good looking guy who's got a lot of money. Goes to a lot of parties with loads of drugs and fit girls around. It's only going to go one way really.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    The Italians take a lot of stick for supossedly ignoring doping problems, but it seems they are more vigorous than either the UCI or the Belgian fed.
    .

    But the WADA standard says you can take it for your own amusement out of competition.
    So if he didn't actually do anything punishable why should they persue him?
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.

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