National 10 TT - how fast?!?
A bit slow posting this (i've actually had work to do this week!), but the times from Sunday's National 10 are jaw dropping! 28 men under 20 minutes and some seriously quick times from the women and juniors. Is that the faster ever? By the way, well done to Ruth (21:32!!), although i guess it must be frustrating to be so close to the medals.
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I was stunned by the times too, I'd imagine it must be a very fast course, but still very impressive.
I raced with Emma Trott (not that I knew who she was at the time, and I'm sure she doesn't know who I am!) at Hillingdon earlier this year. I think she was treating it as a traing exercise, It must have been like a gentle sunday morning club run to her judging from that time!
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It was apparently a very quick day too, as some riders who'd raced the course previously were 1'00-1'30 quicker.
As you said Rich, so many riders under 20 minutes and almost a few comp records. I wonder if there's been a faster national 10 before? I reckon not.
Hutchinson was in a league of his own again.Jeff Jones
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His position looked interesting - didn't he have the tri bars pointing upwards - is this getting common in TTing now I've only seen the pros do it before.
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Yes, the two courses used (the men's event was on a different but similar course to the women's and juniors' events) were extremely fast. The traffic volumes were very high too - far higher than I'd normally be prepared to race in - and of course that helps when you're looking for speed.
But yes, Hutch was absolutely incredible. Julia Shaw and Joanna Rowsell were mighty impressive too, perhaps Julia more so because she's not a full-time cyclist nor a Team Pursuit World Champion (and she did win!).
Thanks, RichieG, it was a PB but I don't take much pleasure in a traffic-assisted PB. (But if I could only do a 21 on my local course.......... that would be something special!
) I note, though that you cleaned up a handicap prize at the weekend? Well done!
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18-07 is the 2nd fastest "10" ever recorded in the UK after Wiggins' 17-58 in 2006Jeff Jones wrote:Hutchinson was in a league of his own again.0 -
Richie G wrote:A bit slow posting this (i've actually had work to do this week!), but the times from Sunday's National 10 are jaw dropping! 28 men under 20 minutes and some seriously quick times from the women and juniors. Is that the faster ever? By the way, well done to Ruth (21:32!!), although i guess it must be frustrating to be so close to the medals.
Rich
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Hutch's time (18:07) was the 2nd fastest ever time in an open 10. Only Bradley Wiggins has gone faster with an astounding 17:58 on the super-fast, 'ski-slope' that is the Levens course. The late great Jason McIntyre recorded a 18:15 on the Levens course too.
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Yes, the two courses used (the men's event was on a different but similar course to the women's and juniors' events) were extremely fast. The traffic volumes were very high too - far higher than I'd normally be prepared to race in - and of course that helps when you're looking for speed.
I'm surprised that they chose such a busy course for a big event - i guess the promise of quick times might add to the attraction for some.Thanks, RichieG, it was a PB but I don't take much pleasure in a traffic-assisted PB. (But if I could only do a 21 on my local course.......... that would be something special!
Just out of interest, how much did you beat your previous best by? I thought the times were about a minute better than i expected, which is why i was so amazed.I note, though that you cleaned up a handicap prize at the weekend? Well done!
I'm really chuffed with that. It was touch and go whether i'd take part, as i was full of cold - it's been nice telling people i've 'won' something for a change! By the way, that certainly wasn't a fast course! (good fun though!) 0 -
Didn't Chris Boardman do a long 17 in a club ten in the lead up to his first hour record? It would have been on the course that I always knew as the Chester Industrial Estate course.andrewgturnbull wrote:Hutch's time (18:07) was the 2nd fastest ever time in an open 10. Only Bradley Wiggins has gone faster with an astounding 17:58 on the super-fast, 'ski-slope' that is the Levens course. The late great Jason McIntyre recorded a 18:15 on the Levens course too.
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It surprises me why anyone wants to race on a course like that but the fact of the matter is that testers flock to events on such courses. Compare the massively oversubscribed entry to the National 10 with the failure to get anything like a full field for the National 25 next week or last year either for that matter. (The National 25 courses this year and last are far from quick courses.)Richie G wrote:I'm surprised that they chose such a busy course for a big event - i guess the promise of quick times might add to the attraction for some.
My previous best on record was 22.07, on a local course (the K33) which is fine but not especially fast. Don't be amazed - there really isn't anything especially impressive about going fast with a constant stream of traffic in two lanes going in your direction, a very smooth road surface, no wind and just one very straightforward turn to negotiate. (Tho the guys had an extra RAB too.) All those 19-minute men would still be the same very very good riders if the course was a slow one and they all did 20's instead. What IS impressive is that Hutch, Shaw and Rowsell managed to be so far ahead of the competition in those very favourable conditions.Just out of interest, how much did you beat your previous best by? I thought the times were about a minute better than i expected, which is why i was so amazed.
I would much prefer to race on such courses, but unfortunately the only way I can come up against a large field of women is at national championships. Hence I tend to ride them wherever they are.I'm really chuffed with that. It was touch and go whether i'd take part, as i was full of cold - it's been nice telling people i've 'won' something for a change! By the way, that certainly wasn't a fast course! (good fun though!)
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Don't be amazed - there really isn't anything especially impressive about going fast with a constant stream of traffic in two lanes going in your direction, a very smooth road surface, no wind and just one very straightforward turn to negotiate
I see what you mean, although the only way i'm gonna do a 21 is on a motorbike! Sounds like the weather was a bit more favourable in the south on Sunday. We had a very blustery NE wind to enjoy! :roll:0 -
Quite possible but being an evening 10 it wouldn't qualify as an official record as the course would need to be verified as correct distance and time keepers would have to be approved as well.andyp wrote:Didn't Chris Boardman do a long 17 in a club ten in the lead up to his first hour record? It would have been on the course that I always knew as the Chester Industrial Estate course.0 -
I've read it was 17'54 but no, it doesn't count as the official comp record. Still, it's bloody quick.Bronzie wrote:
Quite possible but being an evening 10 it wouldn't qualify as an official record as the course would need to be verified as correct distance and time keepers would have to be approved as well.andyp wrote:Didn't Chris Boardman do a long 17 in a club ten in the lead up to his first hour record? It would have been on the course that I always knew as the Chester Industrial Estate course.
Wonder how Hutch would fare in a Tour prologue?Jeff Jones
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I've read it was 17'54 but no, it doesn't count as the official comp record. Still, it's bloody quick.Bronzie wrote:
Quite possible but being an evening 10 it wouldn't qualify as an official record as the course would need to be verified as correct distance and time keepers would have to be approved as well.andyp wrote:Didn't Chris Boardman do a long 17 in a club ten in the lead up to his first hour record? It would have been on the course that I always knew as the Chester Industrial Estate course.
Wonder how Hutch would fare in a Tour prologue?
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If the last commonwealth games was any indication, then maybe top 10? Hutch did jokingly comment that there wasn't enough traffic on that course!
Boardman has done an club 18 - that's why i said 'open' 10.
Personally I'm miffed that Ruth has just dipped inside my pb!!!
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LOL! I think he'd be capable of a top 10 in a prologue as well. I suspect we'll never know though.andrewgturnbull wrote:If the last commonwealth games was any indication, then maybe top 10? Hutch did jokingly comment that there wasn't enough traffic on that course!
Yep, I know. Here's where I read it: http://cyclingtimetrials.org.uk/News.asp?ID=81Boardman has done an club 18 - that's why i said 'open' 10.Jeff Jones
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I rode the National '10' but unfortunately i was one of the few riders who didn't PB (or even get near
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The conditions were obviously very good, it dried out for the later riders and the wind was minimal. I didn't actually think the traffic was that heavy - yes, it was busier than a evening club 10, but it wasn't a constant stream of lorries!!
Hutchinson's ride was stunning, several spectators have suggested that he was doing ~ 45mph on the last mile or two :shock: :shock:
It's worth adding that the event was extremely well organised by the a3crg club!0
