anybody got a costom carbon frame?
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It would be very expensive - and I'm not sure its worth it.
I've had custom steel frames before and they were nice - but i doubt i could tell the difference.
I like Mike Burrows approach - a few frame sizes and then dial the position in with the other components. It could well be that you are of average build anyway - so the standard frames would fit you well ?0 -
Stock sizes are out of the question, despite diffrent combinations of stems, posts etc. Long stems put me way too far over the front wheel.
My current custom steel frame has a 620mm top tube and has a 73.5 degree seat tube, but flexes and weighs too much.custom carbon is the only way for me to get a better bike
Why are all manufacturers like geometry sheep?0 -
Custom carbon available from the likes of Calfee, Serotta, DeRoas and Colnago amongst others - all with a high price and long wait to match. You may also be able to find others using the Deda DCS systems which enables a degree of customisation - perhaps Mario Bertoletti - www.mbbike.it is a good place to start - I don't think they have a current UK dealer since Skinnywheels folded, but have a great reputation.Make mine an Italian, with Campagnolo on the side..0
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Custom aluminium could get you a better suited bike too. Steel can also be made stiffer, but at the expense of weight. You could also try titanium.0
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I need a frame to be stiff, strong, comfortable and light. This list rules out ti, alu and steel !
Only carbon has all these characteristics.0 -
Small billato frames weigh about 1kg, so maybe 1.3kg0
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A couple of names to add to the frames list are Crumpton and Seven.
http://www.crumptoncycles.com
http://www.sevencycles.com/home.php0 -
Meant to add, if you post on the Weight Weenies site there are a few custom carbon owners on there.0
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Monty Dog wrote:"
perhaps Mario Bertoletti - www.mbbike.it is a good place to start - I don't think they have a current UK dealer since Skinnywheels folded, but have a great reputation.
Thanks for the link Monty Dog.
I've been on their site and one of their frames looks exactly like viners top end maxima, which got a great write up in Procycling0 -
Parlee are more than worth a look, but you may need to sell all that you hold dear to buy one. exquisite! :shock:0
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Bianchi will also make the 928 T-Cube to custom geometry.
Whether it's a practical option from the UK (presuming your in the UK) though I 've no idea.0 -
For a frame that looks EXACTLY like viners maxima, go to www.mbbike.it
They probably make it for viner, and you might save a few €0 -
Parlee do full custom (via Barry at Bespoke Cycliing in the UK) though the full custom option is expensive. All the Parlee reviews I've seen have been very good and friends who ride them have been very pleased.
Even a 620mm top tube is fairly unusual so it's not that surprising you can't find a stock size you're happy with. If you're looking to ride a shorter stem and the seat tube is already 73.5 degrees the TT will obviously be even longer. This is probably too far out on the bell curve to warrant investment in the moulds to mass produce a carbon frame of this size.0 -
It's more likely that Viner make it for a number of people and only badge a few of them as their own.natureboy wrote:For a frame that looks EXACTLY like viners maxima, go to www.mbbike.it
They probably make it for viner, and you might save a few €
You should speak to Bespoke Cycling about a Parlee.
I've a Casati Marte that was made to measure, not sure if that's custom enough for you? I ordered it directly from Casati in Monza when I visited the factory. A lot of Italian manufacturers will do this.0 -
Weight Weenies
http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/
A Parlee would be my choice for custom carbon. Or a Crumpton. Very nice.0 -
James_London wrote:This is probably too far out on the bell curve to warrant investment in the moulds to mass produce a carbon frame of this size.
I'd have to check with builders to make sure they're up for it before choosing one. But they are custom builders, isn't that their job?0 -
Full custom parlee frames cost £3700+, whereas a billato supercorsa costs £2k. I don't think there would be much, if any, performance diffrence.
As long as a frame is strong and durable I'm not concerned with boutique finishing.
The titanium hardwear of the parlee would lastlonger than billato's alu, though.0 -
I've a Casati Marte that was made to measure,
Fantastic bike, but for '08 its got an integrated seattube, and I don't like them - does anybody0 -
natureboy wrote:I've a Casati Marte that was made to measure,
Fantastic bike, but for '08 its got an integrated seattube, and I don't like them - does anybody
yes but it's not the prettiest carbon job out there is it. I like Casati especially their steel offerings but not their carbon ones.0 -
But as it'll be custom Casati will happily build one without an integrated seat tube - a friend of mine got a Vola, which also has an integrated seat tube this year, and specified it with a seat post. It was no problem for Casati.natureboy wrote:Fantastic bike, but for '08 its got an integrated seattube, and I don't like them - does anybody0 -
natureboy wrote:James_London wrote:This is probably too far out on the bell curve to warrant investment in the moulds to mass produce a carbon frame of this size.
I'd have to check with builders to make sure they're up for it before choosing one. But they are custom builders, isn't that their job?
Absolutely - should be no problem for the custom builders mentioned. I was meaning for a frame that large to be available as a stock size :-)0 -
Have you checked out Terry Dolan. It looks like you can get a custom Dolan elio frameset for £1400, sounds like a bit of a bargain.0
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It's more likely that Viner make it for a number of people and only badge a few of them as their own.andyp wrote:natureboy wrote:For a frame that looks EXACTLY like viners maxima, go to www.mbbike.it
They probably make it for viner, and you might save a few €
Mbbike (bertoletti) also do a titanium lugged custom carbon frame that is the spitting image of viners top end frame from '05 ish, only viner doesn't make it any more..... Looks like mbbike makes some of viners'...0 -
I think you'll find that a number of Italian manufacturers collaborate to offer a range of bike types and materials. Viner are well known for making bikes for others and AFAIK Bertoletti is a bona-fide builder in his own right and not a marketing operation. The aforementioned Dolan appears to use Deda's DCS custom carbon solution - but I expect they're not made in Bootle.Make mine an Italian, with Campagnolo on the side..0
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Monty Dog wrote:I think you'll find that a number of Italian manufacturers collaborate to offer a range of bike types and materials. Viner are well known for making bikes for others and AFAIK Bertoletti is a bona-fide builder in his own right and not a marketing operation. The aforementioned Dolan appears to use Deda's DCS custom carbon solution - but I expect they're not made in Bootle.
I want to go to italy and talk with someone in the same factory where my frame will be made.
I have a custom steel dolan and spoke to terry in person. I asked him if him if he gets his frames made in taiwan and he nearly bit my head off!. He said he gets them made in belgium and italy.
Some of his carbon frames are well under a grand though, so they must be from the far east.it would be easier for him if he came clean and said that the cheaper carbon frames came from the far east and that his steel and high end carbon frames come from belgium and italy.
My steel dolan is put together very well and by hand by the looks of it.
I'd recommend dolan for custom steel0 -
Natureboy,
As MontyDog says Marco Bertoletti does make frames in his own right. His attention to detail is fabulous. I know you're not inthe market to buy Titanium but I had a custom made Ti frame from him and IMO the welds are the most perfect works of art I've ever seen on a bike (Click below for pics). I only mention this as if you do decide to buy a carbon frame from him, I'm sure you won't be disappointed.
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I had a custom made Ti frame from him and IMO the welds are the most perfect works of art I've ever seen on a bike (Click below for pics). I only mention this as if you do decide to buy a carbon frame from him, I'm sure you won't be disappointed.[/quote]
Nice bike. What are the angles?
I hadn't heard of bertoletti till monty dog told me. They're never in the mags.On the 'site, the carbon lugwork looks amazing. As soon as I can..........0
