The Saunier Duval Miller versus the Slipstream Millar
forearms Van Petegem
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I think Davey "Rockstar boy" Milar has a bit to live up to his last years performance with Saunier.
Climbed well in support of Mayo when he was in contention at the Giro.
Won a tt in the Vuelta.
Heres watching you Davey boy, and ready to point the finger on last years performances.
Climbed well in support of Mayo when he was in contention at the Giro.
Won a tt in the Vuelta.
Heres watching you Davey boy, and ready to point the finger on last years performances.
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He's had some good performances this year.
it's a hard life if you don't weaken.0 -
be carefull youll get the david millar fanclub on ur casecheesy quaver0
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forearms Van Petegem wrote:I think Davey "Rockstar boy" Milar has a bit to live up to his last years performance with Saunier.
Climbed well in support of Mayo when he was in contention at the Giro.
Won a tt in the Vuelta.
Heres watching you Davey boy, and ready to point the finger on last years performances.
Wow, I bet Millar is sh!tein himself...Le Blaireau (1)0 -
DaveyL wrote:
Wow, I bet Millar is sh!tein himself...
Hopefully not in those white shorts.....Doping isn't the biggest problem in cycling, it's white shorts.
Anyway, he's not been as good as the SD level but we'll have to see. I'm interested to see how Tommy D goes when he manages (I assume he's no longer working with his coach) to stay on his bike.Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0 -
Hi there.
Are we forgetting his part in the Team Time Trail win two weeks ago?
Cycling Weakly certainly seemed to have forgotten about it when they hand a roundup of British grand tour stage winners last week.
Cheers, Andy
ps If he'd won that second stage last week would you still be finger pointing?0 -
Maybe his main focus is Le Tour?
He said he'd try and win a stage of the Giro, so I imagine we'll see him on the attack in either Wed or Thurs stage, plus of course there's a pancake flat TT for him to look forward to at the weekend.0 -
It's not even pan flat - it's downhill! That's the kind of "etape" I'd be happy to enter...Le Blaireau (1)0
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The Slipstream Millar isn't a happy bunny after today's stage:
MILLAR ANGRY WITH ORGANISERS AFTER TIME TRIAL
David Millar waited patiently for his team mate Ryder Hesjedal before descending by cable car to the Slipstream bus, but he was not happy to have to climb up the dirt track to entertain the Italian tifosi.
“This is ridiculous, this race is insane, there's no doubt it's a spectacular stage but it's just a circus," Millar said.
“It's a combination of everything that is getting to us. It's a good idea to have spectacular stuff like this stage, but not every day.”
Race director Angelo Zomegnan refused to show any compassion and replied strongly to Millar's and other riders' complaints.
“The riders that don't want to ride the Giro can stay at home. If they don't like the ride up to Plan de Corones, perhaps they should get a spinning bike and ride it in their garage,” the caustic Italian said.
“We've got to drag cycling out of mediocrity and made the racing exciting. Plan de Corones is one of the most spectacular places in the world. Obviously we can't do anything much more extreme than this because otherwise they'd have to use mountain bikes.”'This week I 'ave been mostly been climbing like Basso - Shirley Basso.'0 -
Hasn't changed since his trip up the Angliuru, then, has he? If you don't want to ride the stages, stay home, Dave. Do you see someone moaning about all those darn cobblestones in Paris-Roubaix?
As for comparing two years for any rider, it just can't be done. There are so many variables, doping aside, that affect performance. Even with the exact same preparation, results can vary wildly, as anyone who's ever competed at any level well knows. One cold and the year is out of whack.0 -
Although I am definately a Millar fan, sometimes he should keep his mouth shut. re todays stage, it was spectacular (i think, thanks to Eurotennis, i didn't get to see any) and it was the type of stage which makes the giro my favourite grand tour.
Millar should face it, pro cycling is all about watching grown men suffer!You live and learn. At any rate, you live0 -
Here we go- whinging again. Always someone else's fault. His chain came off in the prologue in the Tour - someone's fault. Fell off in the Tour onto someone's chain - someone's fault, didn't like the Angliru in the Vuelta - someone's fault. Got busted - someone ele's fault. Got a ride with SD when no other team wanted him - whinged about them. Chain broke in Giro someone's fault. Didn't like today's stage - someone's fault.
Never liked the guy and never will. You could give me George Clooney and his villa in Como and the guy in the Aero advert and I still wouldn't like him (tho' I may waver over the villa in Como.)
Ciao!'Google can bring back a hundred thousand answers. A librarian can bring you back the right one.'
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When Slipstream don't get an invite to next year's Giro, they know who to thank. Dull, bordering on the retarded, when you are part owner of the bleeding team.
Millar has become a self-appointed windbag. A master moaner.
I suppose, since he can't win anything worthwhile, he needs to force himself into the spotlight.
The other day at the signing on, he appeared on a "flamming" chopper. Of course, he then gets the compulsory RAI soundbite.
A little bit of positive press has gone straight to his head."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
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afx237vi wrote:
Jens Focked is always whinging. One day it might hit him back in the face again. :twisted:0 -
I think the comments about the transfers are fair enough. And especially as the transfer off Sicily was such a mare - Second year in a row.
But moaning about a stage - Pffffft. I'm a vanilla fan and that stage was great. How often can TT's be enthralling? Anything that requires pro's to use the same kind of dinner plates I use is ok with me
Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0 -
Thought he tried to win earlier in the race & was denied by a broken chain?GroupOfOne MkII wrote:Maybe his main focus is Le Tour?
He said he'd try and win a stage of the Giro, so I imagine we'll see him on the attack in either Wed or Thurs stage, plus of course there's a pancake flat TT for him to look forward to at the weekend.
Also to counter the comments about him being unhappy with the mountain TT.Didn't he actually say words to the effect of having such severe stages,day after day after day,& he surely has a point.If you want to rid the sport of drugs,you can't make superhuman demands of the riders continually.
Looking at this year's Giro route (& I am,as our family holiday is near Bolzano this summer),the last week is pushing things a bit :shock:so many cols,so little time!0 -
Nick - They could just ride slower....then they wouldn't have to be superhuman..0
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I remember reading that its often the short "easy" stages that cause alot of the non dopers problems, as they are just so fast.
Really though, dopers have an advantage on every stage, esp. with those drugs which improve your physical attributes (EPO) rather than just think you can go on forever (stimulants).
At least if its a hard day, the slow riders can form a huge gruppetto, on the very fast flat stages, they have to grind away at superhuman speeds.You live and learn. At any rate, you live0 -
The race route is the race route. Most of the big riders were at the bleedin' route presentation last fall! They knew all around what it was going to be like and chose to go nonetheless. Riders sometimes have a point when complaining about some unsafe roads, but whining about the number of climbs is retarded. When's the last time you saw a guy like Contador or Sella complain that the GP Plouay is too flat?0
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Simoni and Pantani both complained that the mountains in the Tour weren't hard enough and that it was only for chrono men.It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired. You quit when the gorilla is tired.0
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I'd cut Millar some slack. It seems like some folk have taken his remarks out of context. He was all in favour of such a mountain TT but was not happy it came directly after two very tough days in the mountains,combined with some pretty poor logistics which, if it were the Tour of Britain, would have many people on here up in arms. It's also not the case that he is actively seeking publicity. He's one of the senior riders these days - a top time trialist, several GT stages under his belt etc. - and some journo has stuck a mic in front of him and asked him specifically about this issue, so what is he going to do? Apart from take the Robert Millar approach...Le Blaireau (1)0
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DaveyL wrote:so what is he going to do? Apart from take the Robert Millar approach...
ummmm that could go in a number of directions...0 -
nick hanson wrote:GroupOfOne MkII wrote:Maybe his main focus is Le Tour?
He said he'd try and win a stage of the Giro, so I imagine we'll see him on the attack in either Wed or Thurs stage, plus of course there's a pancake flat TT for him to look forward to at the weekend.
Thought he tried to win earlier in the race & was denied by a broken chain?
Err yes? He said (both before and after that stage) that he'd try and win a stage.0 -
I'm presuming that this is an ironic thread.
I'm not that fussed if people want to whinge, I don't need to listen, but when the subject of that whinging is someone whinging, then it's just silly.
Millar threads & doping threads are the two certainties of this board, not sure why he divides opinion so. Personally, I don't like a lot of what he says, but am happy that he is saying it since it provokes debate & thought. Not too many other riders manage this.0 -
Millar's tt's have sucked at Slipstream.
That is all I wish to say.
He may have worked the hardest and been the strongest in the ttt, which is why he dropped himself. But the two individual tts are very disappointing, comparing his results to Saunier Duval.0 -
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He beat cancelera in feb in TT into 2nd place in california and nearly won stage 5 of Giro...Millar is not finished yet I think0
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And the plural of "anecdote" is not "data"...Le Blaireau (1)0
