Phil

Mark Alexander

I have noticed whilst looking at the fixed gear gallery, that there asre a lot of hubs with Phil printed on them.
Who on earth is Phil
It's not the guy in my office, I've asked him 8)

SamWise72

Phil Wood, manufacturer of smooth running, bullet proof, shiny but heavy and overpriced hubs. See here:

http://www.philwood.com/

GaryGkn

Phil hubs have a good reputation. If I could raise the cash I would be torn between Phil and the British Royce.

http://www.genisysconsulting.co.uk/royce-uk/hubs.htm

Although even pricer than Phil I think they may be more sympathetic on a nice steel frame perhaps on a Mercian Professional?

I think these type hubs are for the long haul. You just buy them once and ride until you die!

View the it as an investment and higher quality hub.

peejay78

i think the only issue is the price.

They are prohibitively expensive, as in, you could buy a frame for the same price. £220 at least for a pair.

GaryGkn

Yes I agree but they obviously have there place in the world as they are a popular hub also if you live in the US the price is a lot less than the the UK 's £220 and above. You are looking at $225. Then again Royce still top that.

It would be nice to be able to get them for the US price.

I could only justify the price by dividing it by the years of use. I guess £22 a year for 10 years is £220. They will last a lot longer than that and if the bearings ever go it is a simple job to replace them and they should be as good as new as the unit is a sealed one.

Too pricey for me but if I had the money I would go for either Phil or Royce.

peejay78

zenith hub, £12.99 from SJS.

a little bit cheaper.

you could by 20 of them for the price of one phil wood.

cchapman

I suppose the law of diminishing returns applies here, you can get at the extremes the 'el-cheapo' composite pedals with rough bearings and the highly prized but probably heavy and over-engineered top-of-the line pedals. Probably something around the geometric mean would be best value.
Also in putting a product on the market there are three forces at work - the marketeers who want to hype up the product with novel features, the accountants who want to produce the best profit,and the engineers who think they know better than everybody else.
For me I think the peak of hub-building was the airlite, just as in cars it was the mini, and in society the early 50's.