Cavendish in Cycle Sport

dave_1

was quite harsh on the hero Sinkewitz around p60 of this month's magazine. A few of you won't be fans of Cav anymore

redddraggon

Sinkewitz only spoke out to save himself, not the sport and we all know and except what Cavendish is like.

dave_1

redddraggon wrote:

Sinkewitz only spoke out to save himself, not the sport and we all know and except what Cavendish is like.

yes, many on here support Sinkewitz...but cavendish is right. Is DaveyL a fan of Cav?

forearms Van Petegem

Dave_1 wrote:

redddraggon wrote:

Sinkewitz only spoke out to save himself, not the sport and we all know and except what Cavendish is like.

yes, many on here support Sinkewitz...but cavendish is right. Is DaveyL a fan of Cav?

put your hand up if you think Cav is clean

<arm stays by side>

DaveyL

Sorry Dave, I'm not that bothered either way about Cav or Sinketwitz. I've no idea what Cav said, but then even if you are a fan of the rider you don't have to like everything they say. It is good to see Brits do well on the pro scene though.

McEwen used to shoot his mouth off on a regular basis. I wonder if he got such a hard time on the Aussie cycling forums, as Cav seems to get here when he shoots his mouth off. Somehow I doubt it.

Brian B

Just read the interview at lunch time and Cav says that he gets negative press in Britain. Given that there is virtually no cycling in UK newspapers he must be meaning the cycling mags. I read procyling, cycling weekly, cycle sport and cycling plus and to me most mags seem to be well and truly kissing his butt. Cycling weekly should be renamed the Cav weekly as of late there is always numerous tales of exploits.

I am keen to see Cav win as many races as possible but he seems to be going out of his way to upset fellow cyclists and blames others if he doesent get the right line. He was a bit presumptious when he said he was better than McEwen in his first year as a pro - to me thats ok to say that when the rest of your career is as colourful as McEwens.

iainf72

DaveyL wrote:

McEwen used to shoot his mouth off on a regular basis. I wonder if he got such a hard time on the Aussie cycling forums, as Cav seems to get here when he shoots his mouth off. Somehow I doubt it.

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People are supposed to give someone special dispensation because he's the same nationality? It may be easier to take a dislike to him people on here can understand him when he talks AND we get to hear what he has to say a lot but then again everyone hates Ricco.

DaveyL

I was using McEwen as an example because it's entirely possible the attitude is part of the package with him, and you wouldn't get he victories without it. The Aussies may well understand this better than us if you look at their attitutde to sport, and winners, over several sports. Some people might prefer Cav to be a gracious loser. Then again, there seems to be a particular brand of cycling fan who is not happy with anything. Not pointing any elbows or anything...

Slow Downcp

Surely a certian amount of arrogance goes with the territory - most outstanding sportsmen (and women) who get to thh top, do so knowing (or at least believing) they are the best. Cippo, McEwan, and now Cav. In boxing all fighters state they are the best, and in all sports the Aussies have this attitude - but they are siccessful.

It's nice to see a Brit winning, and having a winners attitude rather than the "it's the taking part that counts" attitude.

iainf72

I resemble that remark!

DaveyL

Can't be bothered trawling for that Stadtler and Waldorf picture again!!!

robmanic1

I agree with Slow, we Brits need to be more comfortable with winning instead of being gracious losers all the time (Tim Henman, Eddie the bloody Eagle etc), if you spout off enough about how good you are people are bound to start believing it eventually (unless your Chris Eubank!). Give the kid a chance to live up to his own hype!

iainf72

Robmanic1 wrote:

I agree with Slow, we Brits need to be more comfortable with winning

I'd agree with that. The problem with Cav is what happens when he doesn't win. A bit of humility goes a long way - And perhaps he is like that a lot of the time but what gets reported? Either him pointing his finger accusing someone or moaning that non-sprinters tried to win the race.

If you lose, shrug and say "wasn't good enough, maybe next time"

And also allowing himself to be a pawn in McQuaid's idiotic "new cycling contract" thing wasn't a smart move.

robmanic1

Fair point Iain, didn't do my homework on this, just presumed we were "Brit-knocking" again, we can only hope his comment"s were taken "out of context". He is , after all, still a young 'un and clearly has a lot to learn as regards engaging brain before gob.

iainf72

I think he's getting better actually - For example when he acknowledged what Bettini did for him a few days ago. A bit of respect goes a long way.

P.B.

People used to be fairly critical of McEwen on Australian cycling forums back when he was with Rabobank. Once he switched over to Lotto, he still kept shooting his mouth off, but he became so good that people started allowing him room to comment. Anybody who did what McEwen did on stage 1 of the TDF last year is beyond reproach.

winoneday

forearms Van Petegem wrote:

Dave_1 wrote:

redddraggon wrote:

Sinkewitz only spoke out to save himself, not the sport and we all know and except what Cavendish is like.

yes, many on here support Sinkewitz...but cavendish is right. Is DaveyL a fan of Cav?

put your hand up if you think Cav is clean

<arm stays by side>

Who exactly do you think is clean forearms? Every comment I read by you is centered on accusing someone, generally someone who hasn't failed a test too. It does get tiring after a while.

DaveyL

Ah, glad I'm not the only one. Glad to see though that he chose a handle based on a really clean rider.

forearms Van Petegem

DaveyL wrote:

Ah, glad I'm not the only one. Glad to see though that he chose a handle based on a really clean rider.

touche DaveyL.

But gotta call it as one sees it right?

If they can make a big fuss over signing statements professing "clean status" the week before the tour, give press conferences, and denounce dopers, whilst still doing it, am I not within my rights to call them on the BS.

Ofcourse, there is the issue of evidence.

DaveyL

Evidence? You need evidence?

DaveyL

Hmmm. Actually, I think FVP is an alter ego of iain, allowing iain to comment on all the doping stuff without having to chip a pound into the pot every time. Busted!

iainf72

DaveyL wrote:

Hmmm. Actually, I think FVP is an alter ego of iain, allowing iain to comment on all the doping stuff without having to chip a pound into the pot every time. Busted!

Not guilty m'lud.