2 x Incident within 20M - Same Road - Same WVM ! ! !

phil_ss1
phil_ss1 Posts: 194
edited May 2008 in Commuting chat
Had to smile (after ranting) this morning.....

Typical WVM in a rush to join the traffic pulls out of a side road in front of me (from the right) and, after seeing me at the last moment, (as he'd overshot the junction and was turning in the process) he proceeds to drive a quick as his dirty cold diesel would allow on the wrong side of the road to avoid me. :shock:

Not content with that, he then didn't realise that I hadn't slowed down as was still level with him when 20 metres down the road he completely left hooks me as he turned into a another side road. :evil:

To$$er

Phil 8)

Comments

  • whome
    whome Posts: 167
    The second incident was perhaps something you could have avoided though...
    Training, highway design and increasing cycle numbers are important to safety. Helmets are just a red herring.
  • phil_ss1
    phil_ss1 Posts: 194
    Er, fail to see how I can avoid a driver just turning left when I'm along side him, no indicationand no slowing down!

    Don't forget he was on the wrong side of the road as well...

    Are you saying that as I approach every left hand turn I stop and let the left turners, I if use telepathy to know they are wanting to turn left, go before me?!?! Sorry, no.

    Phil
  • cee
    cee Posts: 4,553
    phil_ss1 wrote:
    Er, fail to see how I can avoid a driver just turning left when I'm along side him, no indicationand no slowing down!

    Don't forget he was on the wrong side of the road as well...

    Are you saying that as I approach every left hand turn I stop and let the left turners, I if use telepathy to know they are wanting to turn left, go before me?!?! Sorry, no.

    Phil

    Hey phil! I think he was saying that if you were concerned, you could have let off a little to let him in, maybe 10 - 15 metres before the junction.

    Yes...he was a t0$$3r, but I quote from another member on another thread.....
    Best riding/driving advice I ever got, was from my Dad. "Everyone else on the road is an idiot,
    Expect them to act like idiots no matter what".
    Genius my Dad, he's absolutely right, and I do.

    Being alongside a driver who has already just proved themselves to be erratic was probably not your most wise moment ever, proven by the fact that he left hooked you immediately after that.

    I agree with whome, that could have been somewhat avoided.

    (Obviously I don't know the road or exact details of what happened, but from your initial post, my very first thought was the same as whome's)
    Whenever I see an adult on a bicycle, I believe in the future of the human race.

    H.G. Wells.
  • whome
    whome Posts: 167
    Thank you, CEE, that was a better explanation of what I was trying to say.
    Training, highway design and increasing cycle numbers are important to safety. Helmets are just a red herring.
  • phil_ss1
    phil_ss1 Posts: 194
    Hi,

    If I had travelled along the road trying to keep up with the guy then I'd agree with you, but he turned left into me immediately after he had turned onto the road I was on, think of the junction as a staggered x-road.

    If I see the twit today I'l be stopping him for a quiet word...

    These guys are bullies, plain and simple, just like my trip in the car yesterday when a blue van man followed me for a mile, not more than 3 to 6 feet off my bumper in a 30mph limit 'cos he thought it was safe to do 40+ on that stretch... That to$$er gobbed on my wife's car at the t.lights with no provocation from what so ever!!!! :shock:

    Why do I attract the nutters by only going around my daily business :evil:

    Phil
  • cee
    cee Posts: 4,553
    Ahhh Phil....but that is not what you said in your OP :lol:
    phil_ss1 wrote:

    Not content with that, he then didn't realise that I hadn't slowed down as was still level with him when 20 metres down the road he completely left hooks me as he turned into a another side road. :evil:



    the gobbing is truly disgusting :evil:
    Whenever I see an adult on a bicycle, I believe in the future of the human race.

    H.G. Wells.
  • whome
    whome Posts: 167
    The fact you referred to it as 2 separate incidents suggest you could have reacted differently to the first and then avoided the second completely.

    I think cee highlights the important part - what if you had braked when he pulled out onto the wrong side, wouldn't you have had time/room to avoid being alongside him, or at least minimised the danger time?
    Training, highway design and increasing cycle numbers are important to safety. Helmets are just a red herring.