Mavic R-Sys
I know there's been a few questioning the potential for R-Sys spokes being fragile but I put a post on the Sportive and Rides section on Mavic at the Etape Caledonia.
Great service all round but after replacing the spokes one of the mechanics put my old spokes against a step and jumped on them......nothing....not a crunch, crack or ping.
A good deal more robust than many (me included) would have suspected.
Great service all round but after replacing the spokes one of the mechanics put my old spokes against a step and jumped on them......nothing....not a crunch, crack or ping.
A good deal more robust than many (me included) would have suspected.
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There are many website posts about how fragile these wheels are, but most of them just seem to have seen the one US Cat4 race crash with spokes flying in the air.
Over here they are pretty popular - saw 4 sets in the last race I was doing - and I asked both of the shops which sell them if they had had any issues with them and they said not one, all the owners were really happy with them.
Im curious how many of the critics are folks who have dropped 2000gbp on a set of LEWS or Lightweights and are a bit dismayed to have some horrible French mass market producer comes up with these
Mind you, you do say "after replacing the spokes"..??Fitter....healthier....more productive.....0 -
Saw a a pair of these wheels on a Pinarello Prince at my LBS on Friday. They looked really good.0
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They are about the most un-aerodynamic wheel around though.0
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grimpeur wrote:They are about the most un-aerodynamic wheel around though.
Lighter, stiffer more comfortable and the aero difference is only apparent over 25mph, solo riding...on the flat.
Going up hills is my issue, so I'll live with the <2% difference in aerodynamics for all the other benefits.0 -
http://www.rouesartisanales.com/article-15505311.html
That's still a big difference in aero difference, and stiffer yet more comfortable? :S how does that work? :S
They'll still be less aero at slower than 25mph, just the test was done at that speed
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Lighter, stiffer and more comfortable than what?BigG67 wrote:Lighter, stiffer more comfortable and the aero difference is only apparent over 25mph, solo riding...on the flat.
Going up hills is my issue, so I'll live with the <2% difference in aerodynamics for all the other benefits.
I've also got news for you - the aero benefit still works at low speeds, just not to as big an extent. The trouble is, neither does 100g of the pair of wheels make that much difference when climbing - that's only about 0.125% of a typical rider and bike weight! In fact on a typical 1:20 drag you're still going fast enough that you'll lose more from the poor aero of an R-Sys than you'll gain from the lower weight (not that they are extremely light, so I doubt the LW / Lew owners will be having that troubled a sleep).0 -
Lightweight / LEW owners have a 1000g wheelset, these still weigh over 1350g.
For their price, you can build up some wheels to suit you. For example, get some DT240s (or even 190 Ceramic!) hubs, use Sapim CX-Ray spokes and then a Kinlin 23 rim or the American Classic 23mm rim and you'll have a 1250g pair of wheels for less money that are stronger and more aero too.
Nothing wrong with R-sys, just that like most Mavic wheels they seem to be an off-the-shelf factory product that costs more than a custom-built choice. It's like an M&S suit that costs more than a tailor made Saville Row one that's cut from finer cloth!0 -
Kléber wrote:Lightweight / LEW owners have a 1000g wheelset, these still weigh over 1350g.
For their price, you can build up some wheels to suit you. For example, get some DT240s (or even 190 Ceramic!) hubs, use Sapim CX-Ray spokes and then a Kinlin 23 rim or the American Classic 23mm rim and you'll have a 1250g pair of wheels for less money that are stronger and more aero too.
Nothing wrong with R-sys, just that like most Mavic wheels they seem to be an off-the-shelf factory product that costs more than a custom-built choice. It's like an M&S suit that costs more than a tailor made Saville Row one that's cut from finer cloth!
the only bit i'd disagree with of your post klerber is the nothing wrong statement. their unaeroness is just too much!!!!
aracer is right that you want a more aero wheel on your rig than that. i'd honestly rather have a set of cosmic wheels which are half the price
the lime green on the sys does look very nice in the sunshine though ... i saw a pair in action yesterday.0 -
but...
they look amazing!- and they have tubular carbon spokes! - surely it doesn't get any better than that??
I'd have them just for that reason - regardless of their "aero" qualities or otherwise - they have massive desirability!0
