Child like hormone levels

iainf72

Pardon my daftness, but why is this only ever mentioned in relation to the Killer? When it first came out it was Gibo, Ricco, Fast Eddy and Di Luca involved.

I know CONI investigated Di Luca because his hormone levels returned to normal which indicated use of a drip which is agains the CONI rules.

But why are Ricco and Gibo never mentioned these days in relation to it? Did I miss something?

timoid.

There is no lower limit to hormone levels. So they couldn't charge em with anything. I think.

Either that or they just don't like De Luca. And frankly who does?

DaveyL

iainf72 wrote:

Pardon my daftness, but why is this only ever mentioned in relation to the Killer? When it first came out it was Gibo, Ricco, Fast Eddy and Di Luca involved.

I know CONI investigated Di Luca because his hormone levels returned to normal which indicated use of a drip which is agains the CONI rules.

But why are Ricco and Gibo never mentioned these days in relation to it? Did I miss something?

Unlikely!!!

GroupOfOne MkII

Perhaps with some of Ricco's child like comments they thought it only natural he had hormone levels to match?

TheHog

I remember it never being entirely clear to me if it was all four of the riders tested that had child like hormone levels or if it was only one of them. Was it ever confirmed that it was all of them?

iainf72

TheHog wrote:

I remember it never being entirely clear to me if it was all four of the riders tested that had child like hormone levels or if it was only one of them. Was it ever confirmed that it was all of them?

I believe it was all of the, it's certainly not been denied - And the reason Di Luca was investigated was because they tested him again later and he was all better.

And only Italians because it was a CONI test

forearms Van Petegem

TheHog wrote:

I remember it never being entirely clear to me if it was all four of the riders tested that had child like hormone levels or if it was only one of them. Was it ever confirmed that it was all of them?

by my understanding it was some of and Di Luca got a specific mention. It was never all four, or confirmed as such.

blazing_saddles

iainf72 wrote:

Pardon my daftness, but why is this only ever mentioned in relation to the Killer? When it first came out it was Gibo, Ricco, Fast Eddy and Di Luca involved.

I know CONI investigated Di Luca because his hormone levels returned to normal which indicated use of a drip which is agains the CONI rules.

But why are Ricco and Gibo never mentioned these days in relation to it? Did I miss something?

For the same reason no one tried to tag Lance, with his virgin's piss, way back in 2000. (making sure he didn't repeat the mistakes of 1999 :roll: )
If you have a hard time proving a postive, positive, how do you prove a negative positive?
They only went after the top dog at the time and ultimately failed.

drenkrom

Simoni was definitely named in relation to abnormally low hormone levels. It made some waves in the Italian press.

As for the lessened scrutiny into the case for him and Ricco, would you want to be the journalist that goes to talk to those two about that? Remember you're not allowed to smack them upside the head.

Seriously, like Timoid said, there just isn't an enforceable lower limit. We all know what those results means, but you can't pin it on them. They had extra info on Di Luca and the logical conclusion in that case was very clear. The legal conclusion was different, though. I think there should be a lower limit, but the biological passports should catch this kind of thing. If it was well designed, that is.