Carbon seatpost - grease or not

dennisn
dennisn Posts: 10,601
edited May 2008 in Workshop
Has this issue ever been resolved??? I still see differeing opinions on whether carbon posts should be put in "lubed up" or "dry" or some variation of the two.

Dennis Noward

Comments

  • Smokin Joe
    Smokin Joe Posts: 2,706
    The smart money nowdays goes on a carbon assembly paste, such as those by Tacx or Ritchey. Not only prevents seizing but forms a gentle bond which means you get away with less torque on the clamp bolt.
  • campagsarge
    campagsarge Posts: 434
    Yep, I am using The Ritchey one on a carbon seat post in an alloy frame. No problems as yet but I do remove the seat post every month just to make sure things are not bonding. I use 5Nm torque.
  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    Smokin Joe wrote:
    The smart money nowdays goes on a carbon assembly paste, such as those by Tacx or Ritchey. Not only prevents seizing but forms a gentle bond which means you get away with less torque on the clamp bolt.

    Sounds good SJ. Although I'm sure that in the next few blogs someone will tell me
    something completely different. Think I'll just go back to aluminum. I have a carbon post that I grease on a regular basis and have yet to have any problems, including slippage,
    and I'm sure it's torqued down probably beyond it's spec's(I like things tight).

    Dennis Noward
  • andrewgturnbull
    andrewgturnbull Posts: 3,861
    Hi there.

    What you don't want to do is to leave it in there untouched for 2 years, then when you're packing your bike the night before flying off to the biggest race you've ever done and find the f****r is seized.

    Even worse you then realise that as it's an aero seatpost that it's not round, hence the usual technique of twisting the saddle to unstick the thing doesn't work, cos it doesn't twist.

    Not that I'd be stupid enough to do that...

    Cheers, Andy
  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    Hi there.

    What you don't want to do is to leave it in there untouched for 2 years, then when you're packing your bike the night before flying off to the biggest race you've ever done and find the f****r is seized.

    Even worse you then realise that as it's an aero seatpost that it's not round, hence the usual technique of twisting the saddle to unstick the thing doesn't work, cos it doesn't twist.

    Not that I'd be stupid enough to do that...

    Cheers, Andy

    Me neither. Then again I'm not so smart as I thought I was. Just lost an arguement, or
    maybe I should call it a debate, with "aracer" about spoke angles on the rear wheel.
    It wasn't pretty.

    Dennis Noward
  • Pirahna
    Pirahna Posts: 1,315
    Grease can cause carbon to swell. Use either nothing or the carbon jointing compound mentioned above.
  • Smokin Joe
    Smokin Joe Posts: 2,706
    Pirahna wrote:
    Grease can cause carbon to swell. Use either nothing or the carbon jointing compound mentioned above.
    Is that fact, or myth?

    The carbon is protected by a lacquer, after all.
  • Smokin Joe wrote:
    The smart money nowdays goes on a carbon assembly paste, such as those by Tacx or Ritchey. Not only prevents seizing but forms a gentle bond which means you get away with less torque on the clamp bolt.

    As a slightyl OT aside, this assembly paste is a good bodge if you have a frame with a slightly loose seat-tube/ seatpost interface, whatever the material. My post always used to slip on my cross bike, but since using the tackx paste it never moves (unless I want it to. Seems to stop seizure as well as grease).

    My understanding was that it didn't make a bond, but actually created more friction due to having lots os tiny squishy microscopic balls in it. I can't remember where I read that though.
  • andrewgturnbull
    andrewgturnbull Posts: 3,861
    dennisn wrote:
    Hi there.

    What you don't want to do is to leave it in there untouched for 2 years, then when you're packing your bike the night before flying off to the biggest race you've ever done and find the f****r is seized.

    Even worse you then realise that as it's an aero seatpost that it's not round, hence the usual technique of twisting the saddle to unstick the thing doesn't work, cos it doesn't twist.

    Not that I'd be stupid enough to do that...

    Cheers, Andy

    Me neither. Then again I'm not so smart as I thought I was. Just lost an arguement, or
    maybe I should call it a debate, with "aracer" about spoke angles on the rear wheel.
    It wasn't pretty.

    Dennis Noward

    Being generous, I'd say that wasn't a fair fight. ;-)

    Cheers, Andy
  • aracer
    aracer Posts: 1,649
    I'd also point out that it was more that I was trying to educate you than anything else - I mean it's not exactly as if you were telling me I was wrong, just that you weren't getting the point I was trying to make!