Kryptonite Fahgettaboudit New York Lock?

Lysander

At present I use a Kryptonite New York 3000 lock to secure my lovely Condor Squadra. Having seen the new Fahgettaboudit New York lock with a 18mm shackle I'm tempted. I often cycle into Slough which does have a cycle theft problem. Has anybody here had a bike nicked while using a 3000 lock?

graham_g

There was an article in a recent CTC magazine which basically points out that all locks can be broken into very, very easily (under a minute), therefore it's far more important HOW you lock your bike rather than which lock you use. One example of a very well locked bike was using a U-lock and filling all the shackle space with bike frame + stand + wheel so that you can't get a bottle jack into the U section to break it open. Also check sheldon brown's locking method for an example (but imagine it's through the frame too):
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/lock-strategy.html

Cunobelin

Accepting bias, and the fact they are selling their own chains.....

Almax claim to bolt crop these in 42 seconds!

http://www.almax-security-chains.co.uk/index.asp?pg=7

Lysander

Thanks Graham and Cunobelin, I'll have to give this some serious thought. Everything gets knicked in Slough! May get one of those almax chains and combine it with my 3000 lock. Should stop most of those reptiles.

simon_e

Lysander wrote:

May get one of those almax chains and combine it with my 3000 lock.

Whatever brand you choose, two locks will be better than one.

However, I'm not convinced that an expensive lock is worth the extra over a cheaper equivalent (I'm comparing D-lock brands particularly). Will a £60 Krypton stop someone any better than a £20 OnGuard? The thief who can break a solid lock will have the tools and knowledge to crack any of them - eventually. All the extra weight and strength does is buy you time.

Guide to bike locks: http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/accessories/locks

Cunobelin

Simon E wrote:

Lysander wrote:

May get one of those almax chains and combine it with my 3000 lock.

Whatever brand you choose, two locks will be better than one.

However, I'm not convinced that an expensive lock is worth the extra over a cheaper equivalent (I'm comparing D-lock brands particularly). Will a £60 Krypton stop someone any better than a £20 OnGuard? The thief who can break a solid lock will have the tools and knowledge to crack any of them - eventually. All the extra weight and strength does is buy you time.

Guide to bike locks: http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/accessories/locks

Trick is different locks....

Different locks require different tools. Carrying a bottle jack and a pair of bolt croppers is more obvious than either tool individually.

The other trick, which is unpleasant, downright unchivalrous and contemptible (but practical all the same)......................lock it next to a more susceptible bike, as thieves tend to be opportunists and will go for the easier target.!


The full article from which the CTC article was take is here:

http://quickrelease.tv/?p=327

pete236

I don't envy you parking in Slough! I park up in Langley at college - theres one place which is out of the way enough that not many people go there, but public enough that it can be seen! Unfortunatly after a load of upgrades I can't park next to a more expensive bike anymore! Mine is the more expensive one!
Will be out looking for a good thick chain soon! I'll leave the chain on the railings at college but with a cheap padlock on, then carry a good padlock with me as well as the cheap cable! All these have been eye-openers so thanks!

delcol

i can vouch for those almax chains i have a few of them,.

i must state they are heavy duty goodquality by this i mean heavy not the sort of thing you would like to carry on your commute or shopping trip..
ideal for the garage outhouse or shed though just look at the reviews ppl give them...