I want waterproof gloves, not "waterproof"

vermooten

We can put people in the moon and transplant human hearts; decode the DNA of complex organisms and write music to calm the most savcage of beasts ... but humankind seems unable to make a glove that is waterproof.

Steve Abrahams' method of using washing up gloves probably isn't the right solution for me - any thoughts, recommendations? My current Seal Skinz waterproof gloves are 90% water 10% glove after 30 mins of light rain - and they have the word "waterproof" printed on them

Help me!!!

Andy

robbarker

I don't think they exist.

Try divers dry gloves if you want waterproof, but you'd eb just as wet with sweat.

A better practical option is divers neporene wetsuit gloves. They are not waterprooffor long, but will keep your hands warm despite being damp.

richardjallen

Why do they always put the waterproof layer beneath the insulation layer and then have a showerproof outer layer? Why not waterproof outer, then insulation?

vermooten

It is the cold that comes with rain that I need protection from, rather than the wetness itself. The diving gloves fit the bill I expect but are they ok to use on a bike?

z000m

i thought those Skinz waterproof gloves would be the bizz, would have bought a pair myself only they dont come in size xxl

vermooten

my experience is that they're like sponges

andyp

The Sealskinz gloves are great for warmth but are in no way waterproof. Such a glove doesn't exist in my experience.

mrushton

Any item that uses stitched seams has to fail at those points as the water will ingress via both the thread and the hole. The ideal would be to have seams taped/welded but this is probably not possible with gloves.

Oh, have a look at www.specialized.com and their neoprene S glove listed under gloves,winter. It seems they are 'form-fitting' and have fluid filled seams. they also have other gloves that claim to be waterproof but this may involve wearing an inner/outer glove combo

lugster77

whatever you do dont get a pair of altura nightvision gloves...worse than useless! bought some off the back of a 10/10 rating in a mag ( no idea which 1) neither warm OR waterproof! :roll:

hammerite

one of my mates who is into fishing has gloves that you put on, dip in water, and somehow the water helps keep his hands warm.

He says they are great, haven't got a clue what type of gloves they are though. I'd guess they may be like the neoprene gloves.

vermooten

The Spesh neoprene gloves look interesting: http://www.thetristore.com/view_product ... ed&brand=6

Might go and get me a pair...

john-bike1

I use my brother's motorbike gloves when the weather is cold and wet, they keep my hands completely toasty and dry and I can deal wih the fact they might look slightly odd. If I remember rightly they are a gore-tex membrane wrapped in cordura and calf's leather. Not cheap though.

portuguese mike

i have a pair of specialised radiants and as long as you don't tuck your jacket into the cuffs they have proved, so far (had them since new year), to be completley waterproof (ridden for up to 40 mons in torrential rain). but be warned they are very very warm - i won't wear them if its much above 6 or 7 degrees then i wear my endura strike gloves which are still pretty waterproof

Shadowduck

I use Gore-Tex ski gloves in the really bad weather, toasty warm and bone dry through the worst the winter could throw at me. I do need to get something for warmer wet weather though as they get very hot unless the air temp is down around zero.

For waterproof anything it has to be Gore-Tex or eVent - I've tried a few of the cheaper alternatives and none of them are even close, in my experience!

Yellow Cliff

I'll second goretex ski gloves in cold weather. Much better than any cycling gloves I have tried.

I think in slightly warmer weather I would still go for "non cycling" gloves - goretex walking gloves or something. My local TK Max often has a good selection.

pawlfreehub

lugster77 wrote:

whatever you do dont get a pair of altura nightvision gloves...worse than useless! bought some off the back of a 10/10 rating in a mag ( no idea which 1) neither warm OR waterproof! :roll:

I've got to agree with that, I put up a thread on the certain mags forum about that review, the journalist type put up a spirited defence but I'll not rely on a C+ review again, terrible gloves, useless review.

Just to clarify again what the review should have said was: "Nice and reflective, a bit waterproof, but you won't notice because they don't breath well, the hollowfill insulation bunches up especially after a few washes so they're freezing cold, the lining fabric and method of manufacture is of the type that causes the lining to bunch up and get tangled, consequently even with a perfectly fitting glove, if you remove that glove mid ride once hands are wet or damp you will struggle to get it back on comfortably. Fine for short cycling trips into town or to the pub not for use in a serious cycling situation"

My gripe is with the C+ review not Altura who did not claim a 10/10 rating which to my mind should mean seriously good. I might return them and see what Altura say. My windstopper endura gloves are warmer and comfier and they're not waterproof at all.

Barrie_G

vermooten wrote:

The Spesh neoprene gloves look interesting: http://www.thetristore.com/view_product ... ed&brand=6

Might go and get me a pair...

These look very good, I used to use neoprene gloves for fishing, and although they're not water proof they are very warm and you won't notice your hands being wet until you take the gloves off.

Kléber

Get some waterproofing product like Scotchguard or a similar teflon guard like Nikwax. You can't go swimming and keep your hands dry but they will last longer. Nikwax also great for winter clothing like bib tights.

andy_wrx

I have a pair of neoprene gloves, wetsuit material like you get overshoes made from.

Being wetsuit material not drysuit material, they don't keep your hands dry, they get wet but then are supposed to be warm
- except they're not, they're bloody freezing if the temperature really is, err, freezing.
I went-out in them for a long ride in the cold and wet we had just before Christmas and really suffered.

So I've given them up and am wearing a pair of cheap thermal cycling gloves from Aldi and find they're great.
They're showerproof not waterproof but do seem to take a while before the wet gets through the insulation, and then they're soggy-but-warm.

fluff.

http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/ ... oves-31015

maybe?

Not waterproof but keep the wind out, dry quickly ect.

dennisn

portuguese mike wrote:

i have a pair of specialised radiants and as long as you don't tuck your jacket into the cuffs they have proved, so far (had them since new year), to be completley waterproof (ridden for up to 40 mons in torrential rain). but be warned they are very very warm - i won't wear them if its much above 6 or 7 degrees then i wear my endura strike gloves which are still pretty waterproof

Now that's an interesting take on things. That the gloves will work if you can keep the
water from running down your arms and right into the gloves. I don't have any problem
with Gore-Tex gloves but I don't ride in the cold rain if I don't have to. I ski a lot, have built
more than a few snowmen in slushy wet snow, and been in my share of snowball fights
without noticeable leaks. I have also ridden with Gore-Tex gloves when it's been cold
and found that when my hands start sweating the, so called, breathabilty of Gore- Tex
doesn't really live up to the hype and my hands get wet. Or maybe that's just sweat running down my arms and into the gloves but I don't think so.

Dennis Noward

Shadowduck

dennisn wrote:

*snip* ... the gloves will work if you can keep the
water from running down your arms and right into the gloves ... *snip*

In heavy rain, I usually put my gloves on before my jacket - the gloves have quite long cuffs that stay up inside the sleeves, works lovely!

Special K

Furygan motorcycle gloves.

I used to have a pair which were very breathable and resisted all but the worst and longest downpours. However, they are expensive. Too expensive to replace if you leave them on the radiator and ruin them.

cougie

I did spend a winter without gloves after reading in the comic that Gary Foord used to do the same and he swore by it.

So did I - at least for the first 20 mins until my cirulation sorted itself out and my hands were fine. Its just that first bit that puts me off now...

I bought a pair of illuminite winter gloves - dead cheap and they have kept me warm when the temperature wasnt much above zero.

http://www.bigglo.com/product.asp?numRe ... =&PT_ID=73

Waterproofish too - but any gloves that are 100% waterproof will get just as wet with sweat off your hands.

cookiemonster

I use sailing gloves when its cold and wet, They're a bit "lumpy", and not that great looking on a bike, but warm enough for the english channel in winter, so a little cycle isnt a problem

This kind of thing: http://www.dinghystore.co.uk/index.php? ... a5a60909ec

Very thick neoprene, with kevlar pams, heavy duty straps to keep your jacket tucked into the glove. I've found them warm even in the sleat and snow we had over the last month or so

jon

Shadowduck

It's not until you start looking at clothing sold for other outdoor sports that you realise what a ripoff much of the cycling-specific gear is. Apparently the lovely marketeers have decided we're mostly either too gullible to realise, too image conscious to use non-cycling kit or too rich to care. :roll:

Sad thing is, they seem to be right.