Yet ANOTHER Carlton!
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Well, it's blue and says it's a Carlton! Frame prefix makes it a '59 or a '71-72. I assume the latter, but a bit odd...came to me with a 126 rear hub, once wheel out settled back to 110! Yet it has drop outs with mech hanger. To get even a 700x20 rear in axle has to be almost all the way back in the slots (the stays are very close together at b/b end).
And it slopes towards the front - I rather suspect someone has fitted a shorter fork.
No stop on the down tube for band on shifters. Gear cable stops look decidedly like "additions".
I cut and shut the rear axle down to 110 - no point in stressing the stays and had to be respaced etc for fixed.
Quite light for an old steel - 22lbs.
Rides fast (by my standards, you understand).
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And it slopes towards the front - I rather suspect someone has fitted a shorter fork.
No stop on the down tube for band on shifters. Gear cable stops look decidedly like "additions".
I cut and shut the rear axle down to 110 - no point in stressing the stays and had to be respaced etc for fixed.
Quite light for an old steel - 22lbs.
Rides fast (by my standards, you understand).
Pics in a minute!
d.j.
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Sounds like it might be intended for 650's? That, or it's an uber-tight clearance racing beeeatch. Sure is pretty, whatever it is.
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SamWise72 wrote:Sounds like it might be intended for 650's? That, or it's an uber-tight clearance racing beeeatch. Sure is pretty, whatever it is.
Well...the rear brake bridge and the fork crown have enough clearance for a 27x1 1/4 - just the chain stays that are short and close! And that 110 rear is more '50s track than anything...but whatever - as you say, pretty enough and rides very nicely. Though I'd forgotten how little suspension in x20 tyres!d.j.
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How odd! I can't think of any rational explanation for mismatched clearances like that, so I won't advance any!
I can't help thinking that at that age, it would've been fitted with 27's, but would they fit? Or perhaps it was sprints - I'd have thought sprints and tubs would fit if a 700c x 20 does. Could it be that it's older than you thought, and a path racer? It looks late 60's early 70's to me, and I don't know that anyone was really making path racers any more in 71/72, but if it were the earlier date you mention....
Sadly, I don't know of any really good Carlton resources, although some of the vintage Raleigh heads on bikeforums Classic and Vintage might know more.
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I'm looking again at it, and the geometry is really relaxed. I can't understand why it should have such tight chainstay clearance. Weird.
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Dave .This bike looks much better as a fixed wheel . I still think the frame was a special build .Paulbagpuss0
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bagpusscp wrote:Dave .This bike looks much better as a fixed wheel . I still think the frame was a special build .Paul
Fixed does suit it, doesn't it? As for the rear end, my first thought was that someone had old drop outs removed and replaced with ones with a hamger - but then why wouldn't they have had it taken out to 126 at same time (although easy enough to spring it each time insert a 126 wheel)?
Whatever, it now has a custom-made rear hub and a pretty good chain line and is a perfectly useable BIKE!d.j.
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Indeed, that's the main thing. And let me say again that I really like it, and would absolutely ride it. I just enjoy the forensics of figuring these things out......
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Another machine rebuilt {this one not by me} now with a new owner.
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Ah yes, that one is VERY nice!d.j.
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SamWise72 wrote:Sounds like it might be intended for 650's? That, or it's an uber-tight clearance racing beeeatch. Sure is pretty, whatever it is.
More likely to be intended for 26 x 1 1/4" than 650's on an old brit bike."Swearing, it turns out, is big and clever" - Jarvis Cocker0 -
NorwegianBlue wrote:SamWise72 wrote:Sounds like it might be intended for 650's? That, or it's an uber-tight clearance racing beeeatch. Sure is pretty, whatever it is.
More likely to be intended for 26 x 1 1/4" than 650's on an old brit bike.
Doubt it! It's only the chain stays that are *tight*. Can't think of any brakes long enough to reach smaller than a 700 front or rear!
Frame's for sale BTW if anyone wants it - 25 quid plus post?d.j.
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Dave . I should try a pair of tub rims built to fixed wheel spec.bagpuss0
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That would help I'm sure (tho' it will fit standard 700x20-23s with the wheel at rear of axle slot). Just not sure I need it really!d.j.
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Now that all the winter salt has long gone,using a 1960's Carlton for my short ride to and from work. Its rides like a dream .Nice angles. Mainly buit with early 80's component
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Flash, that's what I call it - a WORK bike! Huh. Oh alright....ver' nice!d.j.
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