Scott Ransom 10, will I break the frame?? what do you think

bhotekosi

OK,
Looking to upgrade my bike. Top of the list is the Scott Ransom 10. I`ve looked at lots of others, and I like the Ransom most. But, I break everything! and the Scott is made of Carbon!

Are there any Scott Ransom riders out there who can confirm they`ve crashed a few times and still have a working frame?

Thanks
Phil

BlackSpur

It's built up as a pretty hardcore AM rig, so you would really struggle to break it, unless you used it improperly. I don't know why people are so afraid of carbon fibre, it is a very strong material when used properly.

Shadowness

Ive got a Ransom 30, which is the alu frame, so I cant comment on the CF issue. Even so it feels pretty bombproof. Im, sure it should cope fine as Scott call it an all mountain bike. If youre doing to some serious hardcore downhilling then perhaps you should worry a little, but for your 'all mountain' needs it should be more than adequate!

KonaMike

You would have to try pretty hard to break it ! Its a beefy bike thats designed to be thrashed.

ride_whenever

400g of extra carbon for crashproofing.

pcsplace

Friend of mine has a carbon 20 and had a huge fall last weekend having hit a tree lying across a steep downhill section, he went flying literally! Only damage was a cut up leg and a grip end that came loose. Carbon frame on bike was fine, intact and amazingly scratch-free

stof41

a friend of mine who is 6'6 and 20 stone broke his ally ransom in 2 months, he got a free carbon replacement and hasnt broken it in 18 months he even took it to morzine last year.
however he is on his third shock, second headset.

abbots_mike

one way to find out :twisted:
thats what warranties were invented for

DanEvs

If you're going to break an all mountain bike then it's either because you

a) Have no talent and smash full force into every trail obstacle.
b) You're a 22 stone paratrooper (in which case I retract point a.)
or
c) You're not using it as intended and you really need a freeride/DH/jump bike

There is no reason why you should break a ransom in normal use. I had a Scott Genius MC10 carbon that I did lots of (very.) agressive trail riding on along with some general pissing about on dirt jumps ( :? ) and I never had a single problem with it.

streako

My Scale CF frame got lots of use, the only problem was a chip to the lacquer on the underside, otherwise fine.

Scott are a big company and, from what I hear, are good with warranties. Ransom is pretty much a dream bike.... I'd rather have a RP2 shock though, just to be on the safe side.

DanEvs

I'm tempted to wave my VP-Free banner right now.

dirtbiker100

theres a review on thie website of it if you search. scott said they're not worried about the strength of the frame - just peoples perceptions of the strength.

ride_whenever

i think the quote for the review was, if people break an ally alloy frame they say maybe i was riding too hard, if they break a carbon one they say, shouldn't have bought carbon

dirtbiker100

For Scott, making the Ransom out of carbon wasn’t a risk, at least not in a material sense. The only risk was that buyers might not believe it could cope with all-mountain levels of punishment.
To play on the safe side, though, Scott also offers two Ransom models with an alloy frame – the 30 and 40.

http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/ ... 0-08-31094
i've got the quake which is mentioned as an alternative at the bottom. lovely bike, really lovely.

chilledsandwich

Before you set your heart on anything though, make sure it is available. I had to call Scott the other day to find out which carbon Ransoms they had in stock and the answer was not very many. If the customer had decided to go for it, he would have had to wait until August for the bike. Even the framesets are in limited availability. We are doing a warranty replacement on an '07 alu frame atm. He is getting a carbon Ltd version, but Scott have ahd to send us the bike in bits from their warranty parts as there will not be any more large frames until September apparently.

Kiwi Kranker

A bit of a delayed response but you may find it of interest.

The Ransom is designed around a maximum rider weight of 100kg (no doubt there is a factor of safety built in)

I have the Ransom 10 but weigh a mere 78kg but I have bounced mine off a few rocks due to skill level evaporating when needed most and it has come away unscathed. There will always be someone out there who breaks a frame but in reality that will be true of pretty much any bike out there. Dont let the carbon scare you off unless you are well over a hundy kilos!

If you have already bought it, how is it going?

davydesign

I broke an alu ransom frame last year in the Alps, but the chainstay snapped and even on the carbon models that bit is made of alu.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/49116072@N00/1260834774/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/49116072@N00/1259980739/

Scott's warranty is excellent though, they upgraded me to a carbon ransom frame no questions asked.