Lower Gearing/Older Bike.

meagain
meagain Posts: 2,331
edited April 2008 in Road general
I should really know this I suppose, but what is easiest (cheapest?) way to get lower gearing on the c. 1980 Carlton I've just acquired? It's a 2x5. 52/42 up front is too big. No wish to change the 5, so I guess either a triple or a compact. If a 3x, am I right in thinking new F + R mechs and B/B? If so, then a compact much cheaper - I'm assuming need nowt more than the chainset? Am I missing any compatability issues? Chain on old 5 speed block v. new ring set?

I'll be running non-index so shifters not an issue.

I've never bothered up-dating an old bike before - I know it isn't really worth it - cheaper just to buy a newer bike! Or chop 'em into a fixed.
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  • LeighB
    LeighB Posts: 326
    The cheapest option would be to change the freewheel and buy a new chain. A Shimano 5 speed freewheel and chain (look on Wiggle site) will cost less than £25; a new chainset will possibly be double that. I think a 14 x 28 block is available which will give quite a low bottom gear. My training bike has 39 x 28 bottom gear and it is possible to climb some very steep hills on this gear.
  • meagain
    meagain Posts: 2,331
    :oops: I have a 28 already! That and a 42 ain't low enough I fear - nor would a 39 be (and in any case the c'set does not have removeable rings). :oops:

    I'm thinking LOW!
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  • plug1n
    plug1n Posts: 204
    Same here, 38x28 does most hills for me and I am 90Kgs

    Dotbike have a good choice of chainrings, e.g. http://www.dotbike.com/ProductsP1543.aspx?A=3&TRACK=DPL
  • LeighB
    LeighB Posts: 326
    Looks like a triple chainset is the answer, I don’t think this can be done on the cheap as dropping from a 42 small ring to something like a 30 will necessitate a long cage derailleur; so you would need a new chainset, chain and derailleur. Shimano do a 7 speed freewheel with a very low 34 tooth bottom gear; would it be possible to ‘re set’(cold setting i.e. bend it) your rear wheel spacing and fit one of these with a long cage derailleur.
  • SamWise72
    SamWise72 Posts: 453
    You can pick up a triple pretty cheap on eBay if you're not picky about it being a fancy one, and in my experience, many older FD's will actually do the job. I put a triple on a bike I built for a friend, and an early 80's Suntour Cyclone (I think) FD, definitely NOT triple specific, shifts it absolutely fine.
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  • meagain
    meagain Posts: 2,331
    Thanks all. For starters I've fitted a Stronglight 48/36. Also realised that biggest rear is a 24, so I'll fit a 14-28 block next. Probably do. Riding alone (95% of the time) I use a 60" fixed, but a bit unsocial with a group (I don't mind walking uphill if I have to!).
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  • s.frisby
    s.frisby Posts: 48
    Hi there,

    It was really nice to hear that there is someone else in the world that needs a low gear.

    The lowest that I managed on a road bike was 22/34 or about 17.5 inches. This was via a mountain bike triple set and a huge megarange 7 speed screw on rear freewheel. Shimano also make a 6 speed megarange.

    I began riding fixed with a 60" gear, but after time I have increased this size to 70".

    The reason that I needed the low gears is because I am a type 1 diabetic. Whilst cycling it's possible to get a low blood sugar reading - just like bonking - many times during a long ride if you're not on top of your blood/glucose readings, and the low gears enabled me to be able to continue on the event whilst injested glucose took effect.

    Good luck with your quest for low gears.
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  • SamWise72
    SamWise72 Posts: 453
    IMO switching to a triple doesn't neccesarily mean new derraileurs. I built up a bike for a friend from parts I had lying around, and used old Suntour Cyclone derailleurs - short cage rear, and a front designed for a double. IIRC the small ring at the front was a 30, and the derailleurs handled it fine. Don't get me wrong - I had to get the chain length right, but they could cope, and I didn't spend too much extra cash.
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  • meagain
    meagain Posts: 2,331
    "a Stronglight 48/36" has made a significant difference. When I get around to it, I think a 28 at the back will finish the job!

    Thanks all.
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  • SamWise72
    SamWise72 Posts: 453
    Good news!
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