Name a rider who

dave_1
dave_1 Posts: 9,512
edited March 2008 in Pro race
was good, didn't get many big wins, retired, vanished from cycling and..probably deserved more recognition than they really got (era circa 1980-2005) and why you think they deserve a mention?

my opener

Fabrice Phillipot

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  • tchmil?
  • dave_1
    dave_1 Posts: 9,512
    bulldicker wrote:
    tchmil?

    Tchmil was big a name I think...very well known..definitely vanished though so see what you mean, but he won't be forgotten...other guys who were pretty good, but not a big enough winner to be remembered even after they vanished

    pick a name nobody will remember, test us :D

    am bored at work...hence the quiz idea :D
  • LangerDan
    LangerDan Posts: 6,132
    Me!
    Good
    No big wins (almost bugger-all little ones either)
    Retired.

    If I can't nominate myself, what about Lance Armstrong Mk.1?
    'This week I 'ave been mostly been climbing like Basso - Shirley Basso.'
  • dave_1
    dave_1 Posts: 9,512
    LangerDan wrote:
    Me!
    Good
    No big wins (almost bugger-all little ones either)
    Retired.

    If I can't nominate myself, what about Lance Armstrong Mk.1?

    :D:D play the game...it's meant to test me memory :D
  • josame
    josame Posts: 1,162
    Acacio De Silva

    Did a bit...and has a great name.
    'Do not compare your bike to others, for always there will be greater and lesser bikes'
  • phil s
    phil s Posts: 1,128
    Graham Jones
    -- Dirk Hofman Motorhomes --
  • dave_1
    dave_1 Posts: 9,512
    josame wrote:
    Acacio De Silva

    Did a bit...and has a great name.

    Definitely agree...he couldn't return to Portugal as he'd dodged military service there. He won a great TDF stage in 88 ahead of Rooks in Kelly..so definitely meet the criteria
  • dave_1
    dave_1 Posts: 9,512
    phil s wrote:
    Graham Jones

    After Robert Millar, Jones is our highest placed rider in a Grand Tour GC race and 2nd in Het Volk...class
  • dave_1
    dave_1 Posts: 9,512
    ian222 wrote:
    :D

    Joey McLoughlin

    where is he now?
  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    Soren Lilholt - great attacking rider, the pony tail blowing in the breeze behind.
    Giles Delion - early rider to speak out against doping, nice style on the bike.
    Jelle Nijdam - devastating attacks in the last 1km.
  • Bronzie
    Bronzie Posts: 4,927
    Wilfried Nelissen retired after an altercation with a roadside post IIRC although he got quite a few classy wins in his 6 seasons. Infamously involved (and mainly responsible?) for the crash in Armentierre with Jalabert and the photographing policeman.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Kléber wrote:
    Jelle Nijdam - devastating attacks in the last 1km.

    He was the man!

    I sometimes wish people would sit Mr Wiggins down in front of a video of Jelle's attacks.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • mm1
    mm1 Posts: 1,063
    Thomas Wegmuller - according to Kelly he was even stronger than Yates. Almost won Roubaix but got plastic bag caught in rear mech, beaten by Dirk Demol (who i saw riding cross at Aldersley that winter). Demol was a DS at Disco I think, not usre if he went to Astana.

    In 1989 another Belgian one-hit wonder Jean-Marie Wampers won Roubaix.

    Another Belgie I liked at the time (a climber this time) was Sammy Moreels - rode well in the Nissan I recall, but not much else.

    One hit Italians include Gabrielle Columbo (one win at San Remo) and Giorgio Furlan (National Champs and Fleche Walloon). Fabrizio Guidi (recently retired) was going to be a super-star, but didn't quite make it.

    Among Grant Tour winners, what happened to Berzin? I guess some of these names may have suffered as evening primrose oil became more widely used?
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,549
    Anyone remember Eddy Bouwmans? He was tipped to be the next great Dutch climber but disappeared without trace in the early 90s. One imagines he refused to join the doping arms race and stayed off EPO?
  • Rob Sallnow
    Rob Sallnow Posts: 6,279
    mm1 wrote:
    One hit Italians include ...... Giorgio Furlan (National Champs and Fleche Walloon).

    And the Milan San Remo....and the Tour of Switzerland....and the Tirreno Adriatico.....and the Criterium International.....
    I'd rather walk than use Shimano
  • mm1
    mm1 Posts: 1,063
    mm1 wrote:
    One hit Italians include ...... Giorgio Furlan (National Champs and Fleche Walloon).

    And the Milan San Remo....and the Tour of Switzerland....and the Tirreno Adriatico.....and the Criterium International.....

    I forgot about those...do you remember when Furlan, Berzin and Argentin time trialled off the front in Fleche Walloon (all on the original deep section Shamals)? Definitely something up there
  • Rob Sallnow
    Rob Sallnow Posts: 6,279
    Yep...I got the video of that...remember the Shamals and the De Rosas!! 8)
    I'd rather walk than use Shimano
  • deejay
    deejay Posts: 3,138
    mm1 wrote:
    Italians include Gabrielle Columbo (one win at San Remo) and Giorgio Furlan (National Champs and Fleche Walloon).

    what happened to Berzin? I guess some of these names may have suffered as evening primrose oil became more widely used?

    All from the same team and the primrose oil and then you sugest a more level playing field perhaps. !!

    But not level enough.
    Organiser, National Championship 50 mile Time Trial 1972
  • deejay
    deejay Posts: 3,138
    Meant to say in that last post

    Eric Van Lanker
    Dirk Dewolf ................. 2 Belgian Liege Winners

    And Oscar Camanzind the farm boy.
    Organiser, National Championship 50 mile Time Trial 1972
  • mm1
    mm1 Posts: 1,063
    Dirk De Wolf!

    Didn't big Dirk win Amstel? I can remember him gurning his way up the Cauberg!
  • dave_1
    dave_1 Posts: 9,512
    so many names, mentioned thus fra...all very good riders, undeservedly forgotten :)

    2 more

    Remig Stumpf (what a name!)

    Gerhard Zadrobilek

    can you remember what they did? And without using web searches as the test.

    We need some cycling quiz on here, partial photos where must infer from...was quite fun on other cycling website... :D

    this stage, one Lemond has since said was the advent of EPO in the peleton, well..shows up some forgotten names too how Fignon seems destroyed at the [url=enhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzYyap8SPQ0&feature=relatedd]enhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzYyap ... e=relatedd[/url]
  • nick hanson
    nick hanson Posts: 1,655
    Fons DE Wolf
    Daryll Webster,top local (uk) rider,who really had the tallent & abililty,but maybe went to the wrong continental team
    so many cols,so little time!
  • dave_1
    dave_1 Posts: 9,512
    Fons DE Wolf
    Daryll Webster,top local (uk) rider,who really had the tallent & abililty,but maybe went to the wrong continental team

    Indeed, his solo break at Nissan Classic for the win was quite something...was a shame to see he didn't make it when he had the talent
  • ian222
    ian222 Posts: 95
    Daryl Webster

    He was an awesome rider. One of my heroes when I was younger. A real shame that he never really got the chance to show what he could do on the pro circuit.
  • dave_1
    dave_1 Posts: 9,512
    andyp wrote:
    Anyone remember Eddy Bouwmans? He was tipped to be the next great Dutch climber but disappeared without trace in the early 90s. One imagines he refused to join the doping arms race and stayed off EPO?

    I remember that story well in Wiinning I think...he'd shown real potential finishing top 15. The Same could be said for Jean Phillipe Dojwa, but he was Festina 1993...also a top 15 or nr top 10 in final GC of 93 TDF.
  • victorponf
    victorponf Posts: 1,187
    Alberto Fernández, podium in Vuelta and Giro, who had a traffic accident (RIP) in his best moment (1984) is one of this forgotten riders, even in Spain
    If you like Flandes, Roubaix or Eroica, you would like GP Canal de Castilla, www.gpcanaldecastilla.com
  • timoid.
    timoid. Posts: 3,133
    Casertelli. Olympic RR champion, could have been a really good un before his unfortunate demise. Ditto Kivilev.
    It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired. You quit when the gorilla is tired.
  • ricadus
    ricadus Posts: 2,379
    Among Grant Tour winners, what happened to Berzin? I guess some of these names may have suffered as evening primrose oil became more widely used?
    He failed a drugs test on the eve of the 1999 Giro and so didn't start the race; he was riding for some minor Italian team at the time. He called it a day the following year.
  • dave_1
    dave_1 Posts: 9,512
    ricadus wrote:
    Among Grant Tour winners, what happened to Berzin? I guess some of these names may have suffered as evening primrose oil became more widely used?
    He failed a drugs test on the eve of the 1999 Giro and so didn't start the race; he was riding for some minor Italian team at the time. He called it a day the following year.

    He failed for the crit% level. The 3 up with him, Furlan and Argentin at 94 Fleche sticks in mind. But he was a great amatuer too. And his mate Bobrik lead the Tour Du Pont 1990..at 20 years old. Still think he was damn fast without any med prep...but could be wrong...in which case I'd be angry