Do bike shops discount?

I know that when you buy a new car the dealer will knock money of the advertised price but do bike shops do the same?
Obviously I'm not planning on spending anywhere near the amount of money for a bike that I would for a car, but it seems to me that all the shops I've been in have the same bikes advertised at the same price as everywhere else. Are they expecting to get knocked down on price?
If so what price can I realistically expect to pay for a Scott Scale 80, a Trek 6000 or a Trek 4500?
Obviously I'm not planning on spending anywhere near the amount of money for a bike that I would for a car, but it seems to me that all the shops I've been in have the same bikes advertised at the same price as everywhere else. Are they expecting to get knocked down on price?
If so what price can I realistically expect to pay for a Scott Scale 80, a Trek 6000 or a Trek 4500?
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Parktools :?:SheldonBrown
In response to your actual question - some will, some won't, some will sometimes.
*Cheap car, not expensive bike. £750 each.
So look for shops offering 0% finance and pay in full on purchase - I got 10% !!! on 08 kit
It seems then that accessories thrown in as part of the deal maybe the way to go then?
If you are well known to the shop and spend a lot of money over a period of time your loyalty is likley to be rewarded. If it isn't then i guess you need a new LBS.
Bear in mind that a larger bike shop is less likly to do this, but then again a larger bike shop is more likly to sell things at discounted prices off the shelf due to its larger buying power.
The best advice is shop around fist to find the best price.
For other things where you need a shop find a good LBS that gives a more "personal service" when you need parts fitted professionaly and build a good relationship with your LBS. You may even fond that for cirtain things your LBS will be better then buying online.
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indeed in many casesthis is true. If your LBS has offerd you something you may want though honesty is often the best policy.
If you know you "may want it when you have the money" its probably best to say so rather then "yeah next week" then when the time comes "a few more days" because the last thing a shop wants is somone that messes them about.
I am in this situation with a chainset at my LBS, i was asked if I am interested so I told him that I would want it when I have some cash but don't hold onto it for my sake because that may be a long time.
Merlin single malt fixie (Commuter/winter/training)
Trek superfly 7 (Summer XC)
Giant Yukon singlespeed conversion (winter MTB/Ice/snow)
Carrera virtuoso - RIP