Another Carlton!

meagain

Seem to be awfully common round here, so this is my newly acquired 1964 Catalina (?) on its first outing this a.m. Pretty much as bought, except for tyres, d/t shifters (instead of stem mounted), V-brake pads in the Weinmanns and re-routed front mech cable (it had been restored in '84 including a double clanger - but the wire ran bare beneath the b/b shell! If not for fact that only done 350 miles in 24 years it would have cut through the shell!).



Pretty lugs (Capella?) and original white Bluemels!

proto

He said "double clanger". Tee hee

Haven't heard that in years.

Nice bike BTW

bagpusscp

Smashing bike .I have a soft spot for Carltons

SamWise72

Lots of bikes from that period have the shifter cable run bare under the BB shell - I've never yet seen it cause a problem.

meagain

Well, this one had already gone through the paint and JUST started to mark the steel!

With no doubt less experience, I've never seen such poor engineering practice before, especially when only a quid or so to add a guide!

SamWise72

Oh, wait - you mean there was no braze-on guide? In that case I misunderstood.....

meagain

In ONE! No guide whatsoever. Not even any cable outer just to act as a buffer!

Difficult to believe I know!

SamWise72

Wow! What prevented the cable from just slipping out onto the BB axle? Madness.

bagpusscp

You are both wrong .A clip cable guide would of been use when the bike was new. Campag & simplex both made these. Dave when you come over I will show you one.
During the 50's & 60,s it was common not to see braze ons, on frames as makers beleived it would weaken them.

SamWise72

I have a couple of those - why would anyone remove it though?

bagpusscp

When they resprayed the frame :idea:

meagain

I bow (genuinely!) to your expertise Paul, but this one has a braze-on for the rear mech wire on the top of the shell, hence my assumption that built for a single front ring only.

I'm surprised that the extant grease nipple under the shell was not removed and the tapping used to mount a guide plate.

I've used a clip-on double guide on the down tube, simply sawing off the surplus "rear", with an outer cable between it and the front mech. Works fine!

bagpusscp

:oops: Five speed with a 10 upgrade . I did this on my first drop bar bike. used a single side cable guide {LHS only} Thinking about it it was over 40 years ago :shock:
Sun plus made in Worksop . Purchased from Mercians old London rd shop by my late father .I have been pedaling ever since If I remeber right the cable ran across the top of the B/B in a section of outer casing joining either the front mech or
another clip on guide .Time ...along time ago when I was a lad :!:

Dickie

Thats a very tidy bike Dave. I like that lug pattern. My Holdsworth whirlwind is finally out of the paint shop after 14 months :shock:

meagain

Dickie wrote:

Thats a very tidy bike Dave. I like that lug pattern. My Holdsworth whirlwind is finally out of the paint shop after 14 months :shock:

Thank you, Rob! A good price also, I think (not for disclosure however!). And it's the right size: so many older bikes are 23" (cos that's what real men rode - however tall they were!) or above and while I can ride them usually too stretched out for my aging bones and joints.

14 MONTHS? How thick is the paint??

Dickie

how do i get a pic up here?

meagain

I do mine via photobucket - if I can, anyone CAN!

GaryGkn

A classic and tidy bike!
When i get a moment and there is daylight i will post a pic of my Carlton.
Nothing special just a clubman but a comfy ride.

GaryGkn

Dickie did you spread your Raleigh frame?

peejay78

i use flickr...

peejay78

bagpusscp

I have one of these. 231/2 PM if you want details its up for grabs,It looks like new .

meagain

Aside: [Sighs wistfully] "If only I was taller...."